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#10996 - 10/06/02 01:39 AM How Do You Define Vintage and Why...?!
vayank
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The question has been asked -- What do you think ??
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#10997 - 10/06/02 01:32 PM Re: How Do You Define Vintage and Why...?! [Re: vayank]
aconte
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It depends who you ask.

I'll go with 1977 and older. Two reasons: The Smr uses that as the cutoff
and vayank's set is from 77!

Seriously though, I think around 78 or so the cards were produced to an
incredible extent. I remember collecting in 76-78 and those cards at the
time seemed harder to come by back then. Then the 80's hit and
the presses just kept printing and printing. I think the true cut-off might
be 1972-73 when the card sets stopped coming out in series and
were produced all in one shot.

Some people would say true vintage is pre-war. This is probably the case
but I don't really have a frame of reference for that time period. I think
there isn't a lot of high grade material from the early 50's and prior but
I don't know if that qualifies as a reason.

It's a question that can be argued forever. I'd like to hear some other
opinions.

aconte
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#10998 - 10/06/02 01:59 PM Re: How Do You Define Vintage and Why...?! [Re: aconte]
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I think for the most part it is an individual matter and is in a certain sense unimportant as one should collect what one enjoys and let the semantics fall where they may.

It being an individual matter my approach is usually one of the following depending on my mood.

1. Any card as old as I am or older qualifies as vintage. In my case this means 1975 and back.

2. Any card starting with the year I first opened a pack and older is vintage. In my case this would be 1982 and back.

In particular with number 2 I find that even commons from the 1982 sets I treat with a certain reverence and fondness and the commons from 1983 are just pieces of cardboard. With number 1 I know I have some friends that take this view and make like myself are working on building sets from the year of their birth and continually upgrading that set. They consider that set "old" and anything newer is modern.

Just adding to the discussion

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#10999 - 10/06/02 04:35 PM Re: How Do You Define Vintage and Why...?! [Re: vayank]
chuckster
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This is a tough one. I know the grading companies sometimes define vintage as "pre 1980". When you look at the technology of the card manufacturing, that's a fair cut off date. But when I think vintage, the 1960's and earlier definitely qualify, and the '70s becomes my gray area. The first cards I collected as a kid were '78 Topps football. I do classify those cards differently in my mind than newer issues. Not only because of the cards themselves, but the sports seemed different then also. (Before everybody was a multi-millionaire). Anyway, pre-war cards are special in my mind. Maybe the age requirement is not quite right to call them antiques, but I definitely respect them on a different level.
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#11000 - 10/21/02 05:11 AM Re: How Do You Define Vintage and Why...?! [Re: vayank]
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I describe vintage as any card that is older than I am!
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#11001 - 10/21/02 05:43 AM Re: How Do You Define Vintage and Why...?!
deadlyembrace
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Using that definition, I'm collecting new stuff (1962 and 1969 Topps) !!


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#11002 - 10/21/02 07:05 AM Re: How Do You Define Vintage and Why...?! [Re: deadlyembrace]
snizzenfixit
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Vintage is a card you are selling, common is a card you are buying

Phil
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#11003 - 10/21/02 07:39 AM Re: How Do You Define Vintage and Why...?! [Re: snizzenfixit]
deadlyembrace
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He shoots ... he scores!!!


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#11004 - 10/21/02 07:58 AM Re: How Do You Define Vintage and Why...?! [Re: deadlyembrace]
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Yup -- i think he hit the bull's eye too with that one!
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#11005 - 10/21/02 09:50 AM Re: How Do You Define Vintage and Why...?!
vayank
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That was me, vayank.
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