#10997 - 10/06/0201:32 PMRe: How Do You Define Vintage and Why...?!
Bid more or post more... tough one...
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It depends who you ask.
I'll go with 1977 and older. Two reasons: The Smr uses that as the cutoff and vayank's set is from 77!
Seriously though, I think around 78 or so the cards were produced to an incredible extent. I remember collecting in 76-78 and those cards at the time seemed harder to come by back then. Then the 80's hit and the presses just kept printing and printing. I think the true cut-off might be 1972-73 when the card sets stopped coming out in series and were produced all in one shot.
Some people would say true vintage is pre-war. This is probably the case but I don't really have a frame of reference for that time period. I think there isn't a lot of high grade material from the early 50's and prior but I don't know if that qualifies as a reason.
It's a question that can be argued forever. I'd like to hear some other opinions.
#10998 - 10/06/0201:59 PMRe: How Do You Define Vintage and Why...?!
I think for the most part it is an individual matter and is in a certain sense unimportant as one should collect what one enjoys and let the semantics fall where they may.
It being an individual matter my approach is usually one of the following depending on my mood.
1. Any card as old as I am or older qualifies as vintage. In my case this means 1975 and back.
2. Any card starting with the year I first opened a pack and older is vintage. In my case this would be 1982 and back.
In particular with number 2 I find that even commons from the 1982 sets I treat with a certain reverence and fondness and the commons from 1983 are just pieces of cardboard. With number 1 I know I have some friends that take this view and make like myself are working on building sets from the year of their birth and continually upgrading that set. They consider that set "old" and anything newer is modern.
This is a tough one. I know the grading companies sometimes define vintage as "pre 1980". When you look at the technology of the card manufacturing, that's a fair cut off date. But when I think vintage, the 1960's and earlier definitely qualify, and the '70s becomes my gray area. The first cards I collected as a kid were '78 Topps football. I do classify those cards differently in my mind than newer issues. Not only because of the cards themselves, but the sports seemed different then also. (Before everybody was a multi-millionaire). Anyway, pre-war cards are special in my mind. Maybe the age requirement is not quite right to call them antiques, but I definitely respect them on a different level.