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#110426 - 04/28/03 06:47 PM Re: Palmeiro and McGriff [Re: vayank]
TomB
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Yes, I know, it wasn't exactly a quote. It was more like a paraphrase where you left the qualifier "more" out and where the qualifier could be considered important.

You wouldn't happen to know anyone trying to complete a 1977 Topps set would you? I have a complete, ungraded set, from a factory box that I bought at Cooperstown in the summer of 1978. The original factory box is gone but the cards were never damaged. They are, however, probably all slightly bowed in that typical rainbow that cards get.
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#110427 - 04/29/03 11:35 AM Re: Palmeiro and McGriff [Re: TomB]
srs1a
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Hey Tom, good points on McGriff''s numbers. On the surface, last year was one of his better power years with 30 dingers and >100 RBI's...but he was playing at Wrigley. It may be tough for him to get to 500 this year...I hope he does, though.
We shall see.



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#110428 - 04/29/03 11:57 AM Re: Palmeiro and McGriff [Re: srs1a]
TomB
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I hope he does, too. I'm rooting for him.
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#110429 - 05/10/03 11:57 PM Re: Palmeiro and McGriff [Re: srs1a]
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Being that the only baseball player I've ever liked is Fred McGriff, I'd agree with all who think he should be considered for the HoF and getting a little more recognition. It's sad to hear that his cards are pretty much worthless now though (man I have bad luck, first Alonzo Mourning and now McGriff) as I have every one of his cards.

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#110430 - 05/14/03 04:40 AM Re: Palmeiro and McGriff [Re: srs1a]
vic6string
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Raffy and the Crime Dog will never be big sellers no matter what the numbers because of two reasons:

1) They were never big names in big markets. Like it or not, it is easier to sell a card of a good player from L.A. or NY than a great player from Arlington or Toronto.

2) They were never the "very best"... not even for one year. No MVPs. No records. Just steady consistent play. In Raffy's case, he has only seen action in like 3 all star games, and writers love pointing that out. Problem is most of his career he has been behind some of the best 1st basemen ever : Big Mac, Frank Thomas (remember, a few years ago he was the 2nd coming of Ted Williams) Jeff Bagwell and lately Jason Giambi. He may end up with better numbers than all of them, but they all took the headlines and MVP votes in their best years. His best years weren't as good as theirs, but his worst years weren't nearly as bad (has he ever even had a bad year?)


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