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#134 - 10/29/02 08:02 AM Re: The future of modern graded cards?
Captain_Pike
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If you abandon/quit collecting modern cards-you'll probably regret it in the future. I returned to collecting after the 1995 season & missed 1992 Bowman, 1993 SP & Finest, 1994 SP. The reason why most modern collectors enjoy the "NEW STUFF" is the rush of opening packs & getting a great Rookie Card. For Baseball fan, just stick with Bowman Chrome. Bowman Chrome has been around for 6 years & only 1998 BC Series 2 has been a total waste!!
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#135 - 06/11/03 10:51 PM Re: The future of modern graded cards? [Re: Captain_Pike]
autobilia
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Nah.. newer stuff for the most part is not good for investment since there are too many different rookies of each player unlike the vintage days of 1-3 RCs max.
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#136 - 06/12/03 11:16 AM Re: The future of modern graded cards? [Re: autobilia]
Fabfrank
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Autobilia- You are partly right. Yes there are many more Rc's available today when compared to vintage, but there is usually 1 RC that stands out as the best. It's usually SP Authentic or SPX. That's the one that makes the best investment, if you are investing in a particular player.
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#137 - 06/12/03 11:57 AM Re: The future of modern graded cards? [Re: Fabfrank]
autobilia
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Yes, but problem is, EVERYTHING comes out overpriced to the point there is no direction for it to go but down. How can you have a RC of a person yet to play in a major league game go for $60-$80? Why invest in that when a Monte Irvin Bowman RC goes for the same price or less.
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#138 - 06/12/03 12:12 PM Re: The future of modern graded cards? [Re: autobilia]
vic6string
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Tell me about it. I picked up a Tony Dorsett rookie that I am going to send in...probably a 96 or better as it is flawless and centered beautifully. Got it for 30 bucks. He is arguably one of the top 10 backs of all time in the NFL, and without question one of the top 3 college backs of all time. He was a first ballot hall of famer, and that year were some tough cards to get in high grade. Now I can't get even one of the lamer rookie cards of any top 20 pick this year for that kind of cash. There will be no big influx of high grade Dorsett rookie cards in the near future, he isn't going to get any worse, they aren't going to pull him from the hall of fame anytime soon. How many rookies from this year's class will make it big? a dozen at most. How many hall of famers? Maybe a couple. How many that compare to Dorsett? Probably none... maybe one or two if the stars line up just right. But people want hundreds for the hot rookies. Look at Ichiro rookie cards. Is he a great player? sure. Popular? definately. Hall of famer? I doubt it. He started way too late in life here at the major league level. He has gotten a little worse from year to year, and is already pushing 30. Still people pay more for his premium rookie cards than they do for rookie cards of Wade Boggs, Rickey Henderson, Paul Molitor, and Tony Gwynn... all surefire first ballot hall of famers with similar skills. If he starts going south in a couple of years, that 3 digit investment will be unsellable at 10 bucks. I don't care if it was a print run of 1.
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#139 - 06/14/03 03:51 PM Re: The future of modern graded cards? [Re: vic6string]
Bonds25
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Does anyone have an idea what this would have sold for 3 or 4 years ago? I haven't bought a graded card in years, and figured this would be worth $30 or $40, not $10? Has the market slumped that bad, or is this card just not popular?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2734882461&category=28088&rd=1

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#140 - 06/16/03 06:23 AM Re: The future of modern graded cards? [Re: Bonds25]
autobilia
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That Helton is a minor league card. That's why it went low. People are now realizing SGC's motto "Buy the card, not the holder".
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#141 - 06/16/03 10:43 PM Re: The future of modern graded cards? [Re: autobilia]
Bonds25
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I thought that the minor league cards were more valuable than the rookie cards since they're much more rare. No??
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#142 - 06/18/03 11:53 PM Re: The future of modern graded cards? [Re: Bonds25]
autobilia
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Problem with minor league is that they are easily counterfeited. A lot of them are printed up by local printing presses.
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#143 - 06/26/03 09:09 PM Re: The future of modern graded cards?
limitededition
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Modern cards are a bad investment. Period.
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