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#1228111 - 06/21/06 08:13 PM Re: SGC Realized Prices. [Re: FYS]
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1967 Topps Willie Mays #200

SGC 86/7.5 = $89.99
BVG 7.5 = $76

SGC 86/7.5
BVG 7.5

1957 Topps Raymond Berry #94

SGC 86/7.5 = $204.01
PSA 7 = $148.01
PSA 7 = $158.01

SGC 86/7.5
PSA 7
PSA 7

1954 BOWMAN 31 "SMOKEY" BURGESS

SGC 6 = $8.06
PSA 6 = $7.76

SGC 6
PSA 6

1957 Topps Baseball # 368 BOB PURKEY

SGC 8 = $31
PSA 8 = $29.99

SGC 8
PSA 8

1957 TOPPS ROMAN MEJIAS #362

SGC 7.5 = $9.95
PSA 7 = $8

SGC 7.5
PSA 7

1955 TOPPS HANK AARON #47

SGC 4 = $90
PSA 4 = $76.05

SGC 4
PSA 4

1955 TOPPS ED LOPAT #109

SGC 6 = $18.63
PSA 6 = $15

SGC 6
PSA 6

1970 TOPPS ED BRINKMAN #711

SGC 7.5 = $9.95
PSA 8 = $6

SGC 7.5
PSA 8

1971 TOPPS HANK AARON #400

SGC 8 = $145.50
PSA 8 = $136

SGC 8
PSA 8

1986-87 Fleer Karl Malone #68

SGC 8 = $25.56
PSA 8 = $25
BGS 8 = $23.10

SGC 8
PSA 8
BGS 8

1956 TOPPS #31 HANK AARON

SGC 6 = $186.50
PSA 6 = $139
PSA 6 = $147.83

SGC 6
PSA 6
PSA 6
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#1228112 - 06/22/06 08:26 PM Re: SGC Realized Prices. [Re: FYS]
FYS
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1955 TOPPS HENRY HANK AARON #47

SGC 3 = $54.77
PSA 3 = $36

SGC 3
PSA 3

1953 Topps #77 Johnny Mize

SGC 6 = $50
PSA 6 = $26.68

SGC 6
PSA 6

1957 Topps #7 Luis Aparicio

SGC 7.5 = $49.77
PSA 7 = $22.17

SGC 7.5
PSA 7

1954 Topps Ted Williams #250

SGC 4 = $178.50
PSA 4 = $155.02

SGC 4
PSA 4

1975 TOPPS Strikeout Leaders #312

SGC 8.5 = $27.55
PSA 8 = $14.06

SGC 8.5
PSA 8

1975 TOPPS 74 HIGHLIGHTS #7

SGC 8.5 = $33.77
PSA 8 = $17.50

SGC 8.5
PSA 8

1957 TOPPS TED LEPCIO #288

SGC 7 = $10.49
PSA 7 = $9.99

SGC 7
PSA 7

1971 Topps #525 Ernie Banks

SGC 7.5 = $45.01
PSA 7 = $34.99

SGC .75
PSA 7

1969 MICKEY MANTLE topps #500

SGC 3 = $67.50
PSA 4 = $66.50

SGC 3
PSA 4

1982 Fleer #176 Cal Ripken

SGC 8 = $17.50
PSA 8 = $15.51

SGC 8
PSA 8

1983 Topps Wade Boggs #498

SGC 8.5 = $17
PSA 8 = $5

SGC 8.5
PSA 8

1967 TOPPS #253 INDIANS ROOKIES

SGC 8.5 = $9.95
SGC 8 = $4.99

SGC 8.5
PSA 8

1955 Topps #189 Phil Rizzuto

SGC 7 = $170.39
PSA 7 = $167.50

SGC 7
PSA 7
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#1228113 - 06/23/06 11:31 AM Re: SGC Realized Prices. [Re: FYS]
Fabfrank
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Registered: 06/11/02
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Ironically when I first started collecting graded cards vs. raw (around 1998/99), SGC commanded stronger prices than PSA across the board. Vintage, pre-war. modern in most cases the SGC card would close at a stronger price than it's PSA equivalent. I've posted elsewhere what happened next but in a nutshell, Beckett screwed SGC. Beckett started tracking graded cards prices in their price guides, but started breaking out SGC from BGS and PSA cards and claimed that SGC didn't garner the same prices as BGS and PSA. IMO, by manipulating the price guide Beckett was able to prop up their product, not offend the big dog (PSA) and bury their competition (SGC).
I buy mostly PSA cards for my set registry, but have many SGC cards in my collection that I would never cross over. I have crossed over SGC cards for my PSA registry and in EVERY case the card crossed at the same grade or better.




Very good point. I am extremely surprised that Beckett has had sucess with such a conflict of interest in their price guides.




I looked at it akin to brainwashing. Say something (or print it) often enough, and people will believe it's the truth.
I was very active at this time buying graded cards from the 60's up till the 90's. In most cases the SGC card sold for a higher price than it's PSA and BGS equivalent. I wouldn't think twice about bidding more aggressively for the SGC card. The only caveat I would add is that SGC was a bit more lenient on centering, so I would need to see a scan of the card to gauge eye appeal.
SGC and PSA do a great job grading. Beckett used to, but I've seen too many instances where trimmed cards ended up in their holders. I just don't have faith in their product anymore.

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#1228114 - 06/23/06 07:37 PM Re: SGC Realized Prices. [Re: Fabfrank]
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1956 Topps Ted Williams #5

SGC 3 = $95
PSA 4 = $89

SGC 3
PSA 4

1986 Topps Traded Barry Bonds

SGC 8 = $10.45
BGS 8.5 = $8.55
PSA 8 = $5.50

SGC 8
BGS 8.5
PSA 8

1980 Topps #482 Rickey Henderson

SGC 7.5 = $24.99
PSA 7 = $10.50
GAI 8 = $24.50

SGC 7.5
PSA 7
GAI 8

1992-93 Upper Deck Shaquille O'Neal

SGC 9 = $20.50
PSA 9 = $15.50

SGC 9
PSA 9
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#1228115 - 06/26/06 10:50 PM Re: SGC Realized Prices. [Re: FYS]
FYS
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1961 TOPPS #287 CARL YASTRZEMSKI

SGC 8 = $66.80
PSA 8 = $60

SGC 8
PSA 8

1961 TOPPS #547 LEON WAGNER

SGC 8 = $41
PSA 8 = $31.65

SGC 8
PSA 8

1970 TOPPS #500 HANK AARON

SGC 6 = $26
PSA 6 = $9.99

SGC 6
PSA 6

1955 Topps Jackie Robinson #50

SGC 4 = $88.88
PSA 4 = $76

SGC 4
PSA 4

1958 TOPPS #25 DON DRYSDALE

SGC 6 = $42
PSA 6 = $32

SGC 6
PSA 6

1955 Topps #141 Tom Wright

SGC 7.5 = $24.50
PSA 7 = $19.70

SGC 7.5
PSA 7

1960 Topps #300 Hank Aaron

SGC 7.5 = $139.40
BVG 7.5 = $127.78
PSA 7 = $100.07

SGC 7.5
BVG 7.5
PSA 7

1983 Fleer Tony Gwynn #360

SGC 8.5 = $12.95
PSA 8 = $4.24

SGC 8.5
PSA 8

1954 Bowman #66 Ted Williams

SGC 4 = $796.78
GAI 4.5 = $600

SGC 4
GAI 4.5

1954 BOWMAN #65 MICKEY MANTLE

SGC 4 = $365
GAI 5.5 = $350

SGC 4
GAI 5.5

1953 BOWMAN COLOR #44 BAUER/BERRA/MANTLE

SGC 4 = $150.49
GAI 4 = $115

SGC 4
GAI 4

1969 Topps #50 Bob Clemente

SGC 8.5 = $185.79
PSA 8 = $86

SGC 8.5
PSA 8

1956 Topps Hank Aaron #31

SGC 4 = $76.01
BVG 4.5 = $61.44

SGC 4
BVG 4.5

1966 Topps SANDY KOUFAX #100

SGC 7 = $86.64
PSA 7 = $78

SGC 7
PSA 7

ROGER CLEMENS 1985 FLEER #155

SGC 9 = $79
PSA 9 = $77.50

SGC 9
PSA 9
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#1228116 - 06/29/06 10:00 PM Re: SGC Realized Prices. [Re: FYS]
FYS
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1984 Fleer Don Mattingly rookie

SGC 9 = $20.50
PSA 9 = $15.49

SGC 9
PSA 9

1975 Topps #100 Willie Stargell

SGC 8 = $10.50
PSA 8 = $8.55

SGC 8
PSA 8

1965 Topps Baseball Card #559 Ed Bailey

SGC 9 = $56.89
PSA 9 = $46.99

SGC 9
PSA 9

1965 Topps Baseball Card #516 Al Weis

SGC 8.5 = $15.50
PSA 8 = $11.57

SGC 8.5
PSA 8

1965 Topps #476 Billy O'Dell

SGC 8 = $9.99
PSA 9 = $8.50

SGC 8
PSA 9

1982 Topps CAL RIPKEN JR. #21

SGC 9 = $66.74
PSA 9 = $48.10

SGC 9
PSA 9

1956 TOPPS JACK CRIMIAN #319

SGC 6 = $15
PSA 6 = $12.55

SGC 6
PSA 6

1971 TOPPS#513 NOLAN RYAN

SGC 7 = $90
PSA 7 = $83

SGC 7
PSA 7

1961 TOPPS #578 MANTLE AS

SGC 8 = $683
PSA 8 = $625
GAI 8 = $427

SGC 8
PSA 8
GAI 8

1958 Topps #418 WS Foes - Mantle & Aaron

SGC 5 = $138.50
PSA 5 = $105.25

SGC 5
PSA 5

1957 Topps #215 Enos Slaughter

SGC 5.5 = $14.40
PSA 6 = $8.27

SGC 5.5
PSA 6

1965 Al KalineTopps #130

SGC 8 = $60
PSA 8 = $49.99

SGC 8
PSA 8

1968 Topps #177 Mets Rookies-Koosman/Ryan

SGC 5 = $228.01
PSA 5 = $193.50

SGC 5
PSA 5

1958 Topps Football Bart Starr #66

SGC 7 = $99.01
PSA 7 = $99

SGC 7
PSA 7

1962 YOGI BERRA topps #360

SGC 4 = $16.54
PSA 4 = $12

SGC 4
PSA 4

1987 FLEER BARRY BONDS RC #604

SGC 8 = $20.59
PSA 8 = $15.53
BVG 8 = $10.53

SGC 8
PSA 8
BGS 8

1986 FLEER MICHAEL JORDAN #57

SGC 8.5 = $600
PSA 8 = $400

SGC 8.5
PSA 8

1961 Topps Baseball Card #471 Rizzuto MVP

SGC 7 = $18.10
PSA 7 = $9.99

SGC 7
PSA 7

1966 Topps Baseball #110 Ernie Banks

SGC 7 = $51
PSA 7 = $49

SGC 7
PSA 7

1965 TOPPS # 510 ERNIE BANKS

SGC 5 = $16
PSA 5 = $12.50

SGC 5
PSA 5

1980 Topps #482 RICKEY HENDERSON

SGC 8.5 = $61
PSA 8 = $27.89

SGC 8.5
PSA 8

1996 BOWMAN 2001 ALBERT PUJOLS

SGC 9 = $126.50
PSA 9 = $100
BGS 9 = $100

SGC 9
PSA 9
BGS 9

1961 Warren Spahn 589

SGC 7 = $70
PSA 7 = $49.77

SGC 7
PSA 7

1966 Topps #30 Pete Rose

SGC 6 = $45
PSA 6 = $31

SGC 6
PSA 6

1966 Topps #493, Johnny Klippstein,

SGC 8.5 = $30.01
PSA 8 = $14.38

SGC 8.5
PSA 8

1954 Topps WILLIE MAYS #90

SGC 5 = $209.50
GAI = $150

SGC 5
GAI 5

1957 TOPPS ED EDDIE MATHEWS #250

SGC 6 = $25
BVG 6 = $16.01

SGC 6
BVG 6
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#1228117 - 06/30/06 02:34 PM Re: SGC Realized Prices. [Re: FYS]
vayank
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FYS:

Thanks for posting these updates. I find myself checking back to see additions. Very interesting!
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#1228118 - 06/30/06 06:55 PM Re: SGC Realized Prices. [Re: vayank]
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1954 Bowman Phil Rizzuto #1

SGC 5 = $45.01
PSA 5 = $38.59

SGC 5
PSA 5

1983 Topps Tony Gwynn Rookie #482

SGC 8 = $9.95
PSA 8 = $6.53

SGC 8
PSA 8

1957 TOPPS #35 FRANK ROBINSON ROOKIE

SGC 5 = $70
BVG 5.5 = $65
PSA 5 = $67.66

SGC 5
BVG 5.5
PSA 5
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#1228119 - 07/02/06 06:37 PM Re: SGC Realized Prices. [Re: FYS]
FYS
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1957 TOPPS FRED MORRISON #154

SGC 6 = $31.22
PSA 6 = $9.99

SGC 6
PSA 6

1958 Topps #125 Al Dark

SGC 7 = $15
PSA 7 = $13.62

SGC 7
PSA 7

1976 Topps #316 Robin Yount

SGC 8 = $9.50
PSA 8 = $7.55

SGC 8
PSA 8

1956 TOPPS TED WILLIAMS #5

SGC 8 = $975
GAI 8 = $900

SGC 8
GAI 8

1958 TOPPS HARMON KILLEBREW #288

SGC 7.5 = $80
PSA 7 = $51

SGC 7.5
PSA 7

2001 Upper Deck Albert Pujols

SGC 8.5 = $61
PSA 8.5 = $59

SGC 8.5
BVG 8.5

1954 TOPPS BB TED KLUSZEWSKI # 7

SGC 6 = $24.25
GAI 6 = $13.04

SGC 6
GAI 6

1983 Donruss Tony Gwynn #598

SGC 8.5 = $8
PSA 8 = $2.25

SGC 8.5
PSA 8

1986 Topps Traded Barry Bonds

SGC 10 = $95.77
PSA 10 = $75.25

SGC 10
PSA 10
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#1228120 - 07/03/06 01:14 PM Re: SGC Realized Prices. [Re: FYS]
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1994 Flair ALEX RODRIGUEZ

SGC 9 = $22
PSA 9 = $14.79
BGS 9 = $21.05

SGC 9
PSA 9
BGS 9

1955 Topps All American #100 Fats Henry

SGC 7 = $197.02
PSA 7 = $167.84

SGC 7
PSA 7

1969 Topps #100 Hank Aaron

SGC 6 = $24.50
PSA 6 = $16.50

SGC 6
PSA 6

1957-58 Topps #10 Paul Arizin

SGC 4 = $26.52
PSA 5 = $25
BVG 4.5 = $19.08

SGC 4
PSA 5
BVG 4.5

1989 Fleer Glossy Craig Biggio

SGC 9 = $10.38
PSA 9 = $7

SGC 9
PSA 9

1986 Fleer Magic Johnson #53

SGC 8.5 = $16.50
PSA 8 = $9.99

SGC 8.5
PSA 8

1954 BOWMAN MICKEY MANTLE # 65

SGC 5.5 = $451.55
PSA 6 = $428.78
GAI 5.5 = $350

SGC 5.5
PSA 6
GAI 5.5

ALEX RODRIGUEZ 1994 UD SP Rookie

SGC 8 = $56
PSA 8 = $45
BGS 8 = $47.51

SGC 8
PSA 8
BGS 8

1976 Topps #148 Walter Payton

SGC 9 = $480
PSA 9 = $479.99

SGC 9
PSA 9

1982 Donruss Cal RIPKEN #405

SGC 8.5 = $14.99
BGS 8.5 = $12.50

SGC 8.5
BGS 8.5

1957 Topps Baseball #76 Roberto Clemente

SGC 7 = $239.83
PSA 7 = $179.52

SGC 7
PSA 7

1989 89 Score Barry Sanders #257

SGC 9 = $30.99
BGS 9 = $23.77
PSA 9 = $27.01

SGC 9
BGS 9
PSA 9

1962 TOPPS # 200 MICKEY MANTLE

SGC 3 = $152.50
PSA 3 = $121.01
BVG 4 = $144.05
PSA 4 = $138.56

SGC 3
PSA 3
BVG 4
PSA 4

1968 TOPPS # 177 NOLAN RYAN

SGC 5 = $200.99
PSA 5 = $193.50

SGC 5
PSA 5

1958 TOPPS # 1 TED WILLIAMS

SGC 4 = $92.11
PSA 4 = $91

SGC 4
PSA 4

1968 TOPPS # 280 MICKEY MANTLE

SGC 4 = $89.88
PSA 4 = $50.99

SGC 4
PSA 4

1954 Topps #50 YOGI BERRA

SGC 4 = $52.99
PSA 4 = $35.50

SGC 4
PSA 4

1968 TOPPS BOB CLEMENTE #150

SGC 7 = $69
PSA 7 = $52.54

SGC 7
PSA 7
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