#1265961 - 06/29/06 06:24 PM
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bbo
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Here is a small sample of 1959 Topps Baseball PSA graded cards (all NM 7) that I cracked and crossed over to SGC holders:
40-Spahn (correct birth year) SGC 88 +1 grade improvement
316-Lumenti (no option line) SGC 80 -1 grade
369-Tomanek (common card) SGC 86 + 1/2 grade improvement
I'm obviously thrilled with the Spahn. It was definitely a high end PSA 7 and I was fully expecting an 86, holding out hope for an 88.
The Lumenti was almost as nice and I was sure it would grade 86, too. Didn't even get an 84, though. It was purchased on eBay in the PSA holder from dslsports in January. Won't be selling it, but it has now become a very expensive ExMt card.
Tomanek was also a high end PSA 7. I expected at least a half grade bump and got it.
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#1265962 - 06/29/06 06:31 PM
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nice job
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#1265963 - 06/29/06 10:07 PM
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Nice stuff, sounds like the Lumenti may have have to make another trip to Parsippany.
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#1265967 - 07/10/06 10:10 AM
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bbo
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Finally, my most common crack & resubmit game is to buy high end PSA 7 cards, hoping for 86 and 88 grades back from SGC. I've done well. Out of 17, only one came back no change (SGC 84). Three got a half grade bump including two toughies, Hank Bauer (no scan) and
Luis, Luis
Ten cards got a full grade bump up to SGC 88. These potentially saved me the most money:
Spahn, from the most recent sub
My cost? Well below $100, even with a regrade fee.
low number Giants team
My cost? About $50 including the grading fee. Super tight register and focus, this is one of my favorite cards.
Zim
My eBay seller assured me the Zimmer would bump to PSA 8. I needed it in SGC 88, so he may have been miffed he didn't try again with PSA before selling to me on eBay. It would have sold for easy 3 figures in the PSA holder. My cost for a 7 which turned into an 88? Under $30 including the grading fee.
And another Yankee
 For $20 and a grading fee.
I also somehow managed to cross three PSA 7 cards all the way up to SGC 92. Needless to say, these were pleasant surprises and gladly accepted.
Low number common
Mid series common (whoops no scan)
High number, not so common
I'm compelled to ask a rhetorical question. PSA, what were you thinking? 
Instead, I'll just take this opportunity to thank the sellers of these gems for not looking as closely as I did. For those patient enough, crossover is a game that can be won. 
Edited by bbo (07/10/06 03:05 PM)
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#1265968 - 07/10/06 11:31 AM
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Great stuff bbo. Thanks for sharing with everyone.
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#1265970 - 07/11/06 07:14 AM
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bbo,
What was your decision process for starting the 59 set? What kept you interested until completion? Do you plan to do another set?
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#1265971 - 07/11/06 07:53 AM
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bbo
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This is the third '59 set I've put together since the early 90's. A former collecting friend of mine had a complete set when he was a kid and he remembers ordering a complete set from a magazine in 1959. His mom threw his collection out when he went to college in the late '60s. He fully educated me on the cards and the era in general. I was hooked.
He and I labored to replace his set. As the trek steepened, he lost interest in going to the shows and agonizing over boxes and boxes of commons to find one or two that fit his requirements. He was both a centering and corners freak.
So I'd go to the shows and pick up cards I needed for other sets and if I found nice '59 commons, I'd get them, too and resell to him at cost.
He ended up with a high grade set, missing only Mantle. He also had a partial near set in ExMt to NrMt grade. I ended up buying that back from him.
At a show in 1998 or 1999, I was behind the table of a dealer friend when a '59 set came by in a binder around closing time. It had two Gibsons, one in SGC 88 and one NrMt, probably equivalent to an 84. About 10% of the commons were pristine and an equal percentage were slop with the rest in between. My dealer friend bought the set, took the better Gibson and flipped the binder to me.
I merged it with what I had, made two sets, sold the lesser one on ebay for what I had in the pair and began grading what was left over. My Registry set is the result of those efforts.
I know there is at least one better raw set out there, but I have no contact with my original buddy who has it. My guess is that it's still missing the Mantle, but I'm quite sure it's loaded with potential 8's and 9's.
I may continue to upgrade mine, but I have no designs on beginning any other set. Nothing matches the colorful 1959's and the challenge is sufficient to keep me occupied. The set behind me on the SGC Registry and the #1 set on the PSA Registry are so light years ahead of reality, I can't imagine the money those two guys have tied up. I'm at the other end of the extreme: NM+ to NM/MT on a $hoe$tring is fine and dandy.
Edited by bbo (07/11/06 08:38 AM)
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#1265972 - 07/11/06 03:52 PM
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Great story!
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