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#130528 - 05/30/03 06:05 PM 1964 Topps Giants SGC Set
njdolphins
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Hello again

Another set just recently completed is the 1964 Topps Giants. I noticed that the only other one that was completed just sold on EBay.

Ron's Complete 1964 Topps Giants SGC Set

The other set that I am in the midst of trying to complete is 1953 Bowman B&W. There are very few cards graded by SGC of this variety so if anyone can help out it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Ron
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#130529 - 05/30/03 06:26 PM Re: 1964 Topps Giants SGC Set [Re: njdolphins]
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Ron --

Do you have a link to the set just sold, of the item number??
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#130530 - 05/30/03 06:28 PM Re: 1964 Topps Giants SGC Set [Re: vayank]
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"Postcards Named Desire"
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#130531 - 05/30/03 06:52 PM Re: 1964 Topps Giants SGC Set [Re: vayank]
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Matt

I do indeed know what the auction ID was:

2nd Best SGC 1964 Topps Giants Set

Regards

Ron
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#130532 - 05/30/03 07:15 PM Re: 1964 Topps Giants SGC Set [Re: njdolphins]
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That set went for $500. Given the set's overall condition and the condition of the key cards, is that a good price??
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#130533 - 05/30/03 07:22 PM Re: 1964 Topps Giants SGC Set [Re: vayank]
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Given he probably spent close to that much to slab the set I would say not. I was hoping he would going to get at least $1,000 so that my set which is an entire grade level higher would seem to be worth more. Not sure why his closed out at $500.
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#130534 - 05/31/03 06:27 AM Re: 1964 Topps Giants SGC Set [Re: njdolphins]
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I know the 64 Topps Giants set pretty well.

Some of my guesses as to why it closed low:

1) Even though every card was graded, other than the Mantle only a handful
of hofer's were graded Sgc 88. Many of the key cards were graded nm
or lower. Many of the 'sp' cards did not even grade nm. I think if this set
had a lot of the keys or 'sps' grade higher the hammer price would of been
better.

2) This could of done better if the cards were sold separately or in lots.
Sometimes it is just harder to get the same return when selling a set complete.
Let's use the 77 Topps set as an example. I believe that is a 660 card set.
Let's say it costs $5 a card to grade (probably a lot higher). If 22% of the set
graded Sgc 88 or better and the rest lower. That would be 143 cards in Sgc
88 or better the rest lower. Do you think you would get a sell price of
$3,300 or better to cover grading costs? Probably not. This also comes
back to my point number 1.

3) The Sgc Registry is rather new too. Given time prices on sets should
improve. I'm sure this could be the case for this set. But I would not expect
a tremendous improvement here. Maybe a small one for this listed 1964
Topps Giants set.

One last comment. I've seen raw nm/mt sets on ebay sell close to this
price. I would bet a ton that if the buyer(s) of those sets sent in those
cards to grade that they would have WORSE results. They probably
would of been happy to get this graded set instead. The winner of this
set made out well!

Tony (aconte)
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#130535 - 05/31/03 11:18 AM Re: 1964 Topps Giants SGC Set [Re: aconte]
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Tony

I totally agree. I went back to look at the component parts of the set and indeed there are too many key cards that are graded as low. To your point about the raw cards since I probably bought 400 raw cards to get my set of 60 graded and then resold all of the extras that didn't seem to be worth grading even as doubles, the buyer should be doing a happy dance right about now. The seller in this case would have done much better selling the cards individually although that would likely have taken longer.

Ron
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