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#1431616 - 11/01/06 05:57 PM Cards For Sale.
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For Sale At Reasonable Prices:

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1. T206: 1910 Piedmont, Hal Chase, Portrait, Blue Blackground, 350 Subjects, Factory No. 25, 24 DIST. VA: SGC 50/4 VG/EX = $79

2. T206: 1910 Piedmont, Roy Brashear, 350 Subjects, Factory No. 25, 24 DIST VA: SGC 50/4 VG/EX = $53

3. 1948 Bowman #43 Bruce Edwards: SGC 84/7 NM = $99

4. 1952 Topps #87 Dale Coogan: SGC 84/7 NM = $51

5. 1952 Topps #101 Max Lanier: SGC 84/7 NM = $306

6. 1953 Bowman Color #31 Jimmy Dykes: SGC 84/7 NM = $36

7. 1954 Bowman #123 Toby Atwell: SGC 86/7.5 NM+ = $31

8. 1954 Bowman #216 Jerry Snyder: SGC 84/7 NM = $26

9. 1954 Topps #136 Connie Ryan: SGC 80/6 EX/NM = $14

10. 1955 Topps #12 "Jake" Thies: SGC 84/7 NM = $23

11. 1955 Topps #59 Gair Allie: SGC 84/7 NM = $23

12. 1955 Topps #95 Preston Ward: SGC 84/7 NM = $23

13. 1955 Topps #113 Harry Brecheen: SGC 84/7 NM = $24

14. 1955 Topps #119 Bob Lennon: SGC 84/7 NM = $32

15. 1955 Topps #168 High# Duane Pillette: SGC 84/7 NM = $39

16. 1958 Topps #114 Irv Noren: SGC 84/7 NM = $18

17. 1958 Topps #490 Ed Bailey All-Star: SGC 88/8 NM/MT = $40

18. 1959 Topps #58 Eddie Misksis: SGC 88/8 NM/MT = $44

19. 1959 Topps #457 Los Angeles Dodgers: SGC 88/8 NM/MT = $142

20. 1962 Topps #250 Norm Cash: SGC 86/7.5 NM+ = $12.50

Shipping: 1 Card = $1.50, 2 or more = $4.25 total.
Insurance: Recommended and additional at USPS cost.

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#1431617 - 11/01/06 06:46 PM Re: Cards For Sale. [Re: FYS]
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4. 1952 Topps #87 Dale Coogan: SGC 84/7 NM = $51





Got a scan front/back?
I'm mostly concerned with the whiteness level and secondly the centering.
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#1431618 - 11/01/06 06:48 PM Re: Cards For Sale. [Re: Aces]
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4. 1952 Topps #87 Dale Coogan: SGC 84/7 NM = $51





Got a scan front/back?
I'm mostly concerned with the whiteness level and secondly the centering.



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#1431619 - 11/01/06 07:09 PM Re: Cards For Sale. [Re: arexcrooke]
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4. 1952 Topps #87 Dale Coogan: SGC 84/7 NM = $51





Got a scan front/back?
I'm mostly concerned with the whiteness level and secondly the centering.







If I was richer now I'd get the two T206s too.
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#1431620 - 11/02/06 07:27 PM Re: Cards For Sale. [Re: Aces]
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#1431621 - 11/03/06 12:42 PM Re: Cards For Sale. [Re: FYS]
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My first card buy in the marketplace!
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#1431622 - 11/03/06 01:22 PM Re: Cards For Sale. [Re: Aces]
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18. 1959 Topps #58 Eddie Misksis: SGC 88/8 NM/MT = $44

A bit steep on the price (I recall you won it for around $36 w/shipping), but not unreasonable for a relatively low pop, low number. I hope you get it.

19. 1959 Topps #457 Los Angeles Dodgers: SGC 88/8 NM/MT = $142

As an eBay win for you in Sept. for $66 and change, I applaud you for the price you're seeking, especially considering that soft corner you posted about. Without my bid, you'd have won it for under $60. SMR is $80 and pop in 8 is around 70. If that one sells, that will be quite a coup.
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#1431623 - 11/03/06 01:43 PM Re: Cards For Sale. [Re: Aces]
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My first card buy in the marketplace!




Send me an e-mail; mikeuhl@comcast.net and we can finalize the deal.
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#1431624 - 11/03/06 04:10 PM Re: Cards For Sale. [Re: bbo]
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18. 1959 Topps #58 Eddie Misksis: SGC 88/8 NM/MT = $44

A bit steep on the price (I recall you won it for around $36 w/shipping), but not unreasonable for a relatively low pop, low number. I hope you get it.

19. 1959 Topps #457 Los Angeles Dodgers: SGC 88/8 NM/MT = $142

As an eBay win for you in Sept. for $66 and change, I applaud you for the price you're seeking, especially considering that soft corner you posted about. Without my bid, you'd have won it for under $60. SMR is $80 and pop in 8 is around 70. If that one sells, that will be quite a coup.




1959 Topps #58 Eddie Misksis
PSA 8 #58 Miskis = $63.55

1959 Topps #457 Los Angeles Dodgers
PSA 8 #457 Dodgers = $167.50

My desire is to buy cards cheap and sell at a reasonsble price. My defination of a reasonable price is that of below the cost of other eBay realized sales. This way, I make money and someone can actually buy a card at below past eBay sales. I view this as a little more refreshing than many of the people that have silly buy it now prices and over priced stores and websites.

Cheap Buy Price < Reasonable Sell Price < Past eBay realized Prices
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#1431625 - 11/03/06 04:19 PM Re: Cards For Sale. [Re: FYS]
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18. 1959 Topps #58 Eddie Misksis: SGC 88/8 NM/MT = $44

A bit steep on the price (I recall you won it for around $36 w/shipping), but not unreasonable for a relatively low pop, low number. I hope you get it.

19. 1959 Topps #457 Los Angeles Dodgers: SGC 88/8 NM/MT = $142

As an eBay win for you in Sept. for $66 and change, I applaud you for the price you're seeking, especially considering that soft corner you posted about. Without my bid, you'd have won it for under $60. SMR is $80 and pop in 8 is around 70. If that one sells, that will be quite a coup.




1959 Topps #58 Eddie Misksis
PSA 8 #58 Miskis = $63.55

1959 Topps #457 Los Angeles Dodgers
PSA 8 #457 Dodgers = $167.50

My desire is to buy cards cheap and sell at a reasonsble price. My defination of a reasonable price is that of below the cost of other eBay realized sales. This way, I make money and someone can actually buy a card at below past eBay sales. I view this as a little more refreshing than many of the people that have silly buy it now prices and over priced stores and websites.

Cheap Buy Price < Reasonable Sell Price < Past eBay realized Prices




4. 1952 Topps #87 Dale Coogan: SGC 84/7 NM = $51

I checked eBay and the only two graded 1952 Topps #87 Dale Coogans were PSA 6's, and one seller was asking over $50 and the other over $60 for them. Plus their stinking eBay postage overcharges.

I'm glad I got a 7 for $51 + fair shipping.

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#1431626 - 11/03/06 07:04 PM Re: Cards For Sale. [Re: Aces]
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#1431627 - 11/05/06 08:55 PM Re: Cards For Sale. [Re: Aces]
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I'm glad I got a 7 for $51 + fair shipping.

Email sent!




Chris,

Put the package in the mail tonight.
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#1431628 - 11/06/06 10:37 AM Re: Cards For Sale. [Re: FYS]
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For Sale At Reasonable Prices:

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3. 1948 Bowman #43 Bruce Edwards: SGC 84/7 NM = $99






So you tell me you are collecting 1948 Bowman, win a card from me for $57 and want to sell it a the reasonable price of $99?? Have you given up on the set already??

1948 Bowman Edwards SGC 84
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#1431629 - 11/06/06 11:04 AM Re: Cards For Sale. [Re: njdolphins]
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For Sale At Reasonable Prices:

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3. 1948 Bowman #43 Bruce Edwards: SGC 84/7 NM = $99






So you tell me you are collecting 1948 Bowman, win a card from me for $57 and want to sell it a the reasonable price of $99?? Have you given up on the set already??

1948 Bowman Edwards SGC 84




PSA 7 = $112.50, which is a higher realized price than my sell price.

I am still collecting the 48B set, along with many others. I have made a recent revalation. Whether is will be long term or not is another story. Only cards that I personally submit in raw form to SGC make my permanent collection. As for existing SGC slabs, I will continue to buy cheap and sell to the public at below other eBay realized auction prices, but higher than the amount I paid.
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#1431630 - 11/06/06 03:03 PM Re: Cards For Sale. [Re: FYS]
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oh, what a tangled web we weave...

it's a small world after all
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#1431631 - 11/06/06 05:37 PM Re: Cards For Sale. [Re: bbo]
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this thread is oh so rich

note to myself...don't try to pull the wool over the eyes of either bbo or njdolphins

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#1431632 - 11/06/06 05:50 PM Re: Cards For Sale. [Re: srs1a]
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this thread is oh so rich

note to myself...don't try to pull the wool over the eyes of either bbo or njdolphins




Wool? They were both shown cards that sold for more than my asking price on eBay. Good luck finding cards priced below eBay realized prices that are on eBay for a buy it now price or on a dealers web site as a fixed price.


Edited by FYS (11/06/06 05:51 PM)
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#1431633 - 11/06/06 07:32 PM Re: Cards For Sale. [Re: FYS]
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Old, dense-headed hammers are cool. Best nail pounders.


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As I said previously....rich, very rich.
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#1431634 - 11/07/06 10:14 AM Re: Cards For Sale. [Re: srs1a]
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"They were both shown cards that sold for more than my asking price on eBay."

What is so humorous is that both cards that sold for more on eBay were PSA graded examples. FYS not only is quick to point out how competitive SGC is with his perpetual head-to-head thread, but even quicker to pounce on the examples where SGC gets creamed, then he is more than happy to take personal advantage. Notwithstanding comments stating flat out that he is beginning a collection of cards in those years. But before the ink is dry on the postmark, said item is up for sale.

How are those sales coming, by the way?

No one begrudges you the profit potential. But why sneak around and make blatantly false comments in attempts to hide your motive? It also calls into question your "contest" data. Are you really including all the examples, or is it to your advantage to hide the crushing defeats since you were the winner and plan to sell later?

Very rich, indeed. Not to mention this partial cut and paste that captured the attention of the subconcious as my eye perused the computer screen:

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#1431635 - 11/07/06 06:15 PM Re: Cards For Sale. [Re: bbo]
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Old, dense-headed hammers are cool. Best nail pounders.


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Thank-you bbo,

I am indeed old and dense....and happy to be so, but not blind....yet! I'm still chuckling about this thread.

Publishing a ton of questionably relevent market data...while bottom fishing on eBAY...how beautifully rich.


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#1431636 - 11/07/06 06:17 PM Re: Cards For Sale. [Re: bbo]
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"They were both shown cards that sold for more than my asking price on eBay."

What is so humorous is that both cards that sold for more on eBay were PSA graded examples. FYS not only is quick to point out how competitive SGC is with his perpetual head-to-head thread, but even quicker to pounce on the examples where SGC gets creamed, then he is more than happy to take personal advantage. Notwithstanding comments stating flat out that he is beginning a collection of cards in those years. But before the ink is dry on the postmark, said item is up for sale.

How are those sales coming, by the way?

No one begrudges you the profit potential. But why sneak around and make blatantly false comments in attempts to hide your motive? It also calls into question your "contest" data. Are you really including all the examples, or is it to your advantage to hide the crushing defeats since you were the winner and plan to sell later?

Very rich, indeed. Not to mention this partial cut and paste that captured the attention of the subconcious as my eye perused the computer screen:

srs1a
Old, dense-headed




The only reason I even linked the eBay auctions for PSA cards in the same grade was because you and Ron were giving me grief for my price. It was my way of showing that although I did buy them for siginificantly cheaper, I felt the sell price was reasonable. Note to self: never say for sale at "reasonable" prices again. Nothing more complicated than that!

You speak as though you actually are aware of the e-mail myself and Ron had a few weeks back. Ron had saw me bid on some 48 Bowman's and asked me if I collected the set because he was getting ready to sell his full set. I told him I was picking up 48's on the cheap and basically could not afford his beautifull set. A week or so after that traffic, he had the Bowman card for sale on eBay. I bid and won. I felt I got it very cheap and though I could benefit from a flip. Nothing more complicated than that!

"How are those sales coming" - What kind of statement is that? For the record, I have sold 2 of the 20 or 10%.

I bought cards from eBay (public auction) and put them up for sale at a higher price in the message board marketplace. Nothing more complicated than that!

All the cards I have purchased that had a PSA comparison are in the World Series of Grading thread. There are at least three that I remember off the top of my head and they are all significantly less than the PSA example. That is my goal, buy bargin priced SGC cards and sell for a profit. Nothing more complicated than that!

There are about 6 people that post on this board. 1/3 of which simply naysay anything I post. If I were clever enough to manipulate a market and make false comments and hide my agenda for my master plan, I certainly would not be posting on this site.

My Master Plan and Agenda:

1. Continue to try and buy cheap SGC cards and sell them at a higher price.
2. Continue the World Series of Grading Thread, which includes every single head to head comparisons, even when I get a great deal.
3. Set up personal SGC registry sets for raw cards personally submitted by myself and I want to keep in my standing collection.
4. Sell of the SGC cards that I self submit that I do not want in my standing collection.

Nothing more complicated than that!
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#1431637 - 11/07/06 06:20 PM Re: Cards For Sale. [Re: srs1a]
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Publishing a ton of questionably relevent market data...while bottom fishing on eBAY...how beautifully rich.




One advantage of tracking all the realized prices, is that you get a very good idea of market prices, which means you can bottom fish or get good deals. Is that such a bad thing? I guess I am naive and do not understand the full richness or humour.
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#1431638 - 11/07/06 07:32 PM Why FYS's research figures are arbitrary [Re: FYS]
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Publishing a ton of questionably relevent market data





Mike

I appreciate that you are doing a lot of work to show strength in SGC prices. All along I have speculated that your examples were gently manipulated so as to influence the outcome.

I KNOW that I can come up with a season where I can make either SGC or PSA "win" 162 to 0 and it won't take a lot of effort.

For example, in about 5 minutes of work tonight, I was able to start a season using the EBay completed auction snapshot that I am given as of tonight. Here's the start of a potential season

1966 Topps Rose "7"
PSA EBay Auctions: 160044326458, 180042541606, 250039467472
SGC EBay Auction: 300043649058
Results: 46.09, 49.09, 51.44 (PSA) versus 41.09 (SGC)

1966 Topps Mantle "6"
PSA EBay Auctions: 250042196744, 330042063141, 320039659392
SGC EBay Auction: 300039795247
Results: 135, 157.50, 124.01 (PSA) versus 108.50 (SGC)

1965 Topps Rose "7" versus SGC 86
PSA EBay Auction: 190043038726
SGC EBay Auction: 160043677478
Result: $230.38 (PSA) versus $177 (SGC)

1965 Topps Rose "8"
PSA EBay Auctions: 320039662766, 320043505935
SGC EBay Auction: 230039551965
Results: $325.00, $355.00 (PSA) versus $275.00 (SGC)

1964 Topps Koufax "5" vs SGC 70
PSA EBay Auction: 250040508979
SGC EBay Auction: 330040678615
Results: $44.78 (PSA) versus $18.50 (SGC)

1963 Topps Mays "5" vs SGC 70
PSA EBay Auction: 280043557650
SGC EBay Auction: 330040679869
Results: $42.00 (PSA) versus $41.00 (SGC)

1948 Leaf Kiner 5
PSA EBay Auctions: 230042291030, 220040143215
SGC EBay Auction: 150052819647
Results: $88.88, $69.99 (PSA) versus $45.45 (SGC)

So the beginning of my work has PSA ahead 13 to ZERO. I know if I wanted to stay up until 3am I could make a 162 to ZERO result happen for either side.

You've stated that many people are throwing stones at your efforts. It's only because we know that the results can be made to come out however the author wishes it to come out.

All this having been said, I firmly believe that SGC prices are far superior to the levels they were at 5 years ago. I am hopeful that at some point in the future, there will truely be equality in prices realized between grading companies. In so much as well over 90% of my collection is in SGC slabs, I am betting on it. Unfortunately, we are not there at this juncture.

Sorry to have hijacked this thread but it did seem to intertwine with the whole SGC/PSA pricing issue.

Sincerely

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#1431639 - 11/08/06 12:12 PM Re: Cards For Sale. [Re: FYS]
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