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#178957 - 08/06/03 05:29 PM Vendor's Boxes On eBay?
backtomarvel
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I just bought a card collection from a friend and, as part of the deal, I'm to purchase a pair of vendor's boxes of '85 topps which we will go through over some beer.

I'm to send in any gradable finds and we split the take.

But it appears that vendor's boxes -- at 500 cards -- are a much better deal than buying a wax pack box or cello packs. Is that because people cull the vendor's boxes and pass them off as "factory sealed"? Has the collective wisdom of buyers pulled the "per card" price down because of that?

Anyone have advice on the best route to get the best shot at the best cards from that year?

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#178958 - 08/07/03 04:39 AM Re: Vendor's Boxes On eBay? [Re: backtomarvel]
vayank
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It's a very perceptive question. Vendor v. Wax v. Etc is an eternal question. Each year seems to have its own perculiarities. I really don't know about 1985's. I collect '77's and vending is the preferred choice. At least with Vending for me, I didn't have to worry about gum or wax stains, although it has its own downside like roller marks. Good luck! Don't get any beer on the cards please.
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#178959 - 08/07/03 04:48 AM Re: Vendor's Boxes On eBay? [Re: vayank]
srs1a
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Another knock on vending material is that, if the box had a hard life (like it was dropped once), every single card can have a dinged corner. I have no personal experience in these matters, but it makes sense to me. On the other hand, wax/cellos have an extra level of protection inside of the box.
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#178960 - 08/07/03 05:57 AM Re: Vendor's Boxes On eBay? [Re: backtomarvel]
backtomarvel
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thanks for the responses. I purchased vendor's boxes of 1985 cards in the later 1980s as a teen, but did it from a reputable retailer. The boxes can be opened, sifted through, closed and sold again.

I'm going to buy one box from an ebayer power seller wiht 1000+ feedback and see how it feels.

Thanks for the help here.

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#178961 - 08/07/03 03:42 PM Re: Vendor's Boxes On eBay? [Re: backtomarvel]
estang
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Overall, I believe rack packs to be the best and would suggest you go that route to avoid tampering and the protection is sufficient. I bought a 1980 Topps baseball vending box from 'bigpuma' on ebay (who is very reputable). I got a sh!tty box becasue there was dinged corners on at least 1/3. The other 1/3 were probably EXMT to NM and the remaining 1/3 was NM/MT or MINT. Overall, a bad experience. I likely got a box that was sitting on the bottom. The star cards were all there, but it was pretty disappointing for a $100+ box. The Henerson graded an 84, Ryan 80 and the best was a Fred Lynn at 96. Ouch!

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#178962 - 08/12/03 12:13 PM Re: Vendor's Boxes On eBay? [Re: estang]
vayank
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I have to put in another good for vending. I bought a '77 vending and had good results. The ket is to find a collector with deep knowledge in your specialty and get their opinion. It differs by years and eras.
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#178963 - 09/09/03 01:35 AM Re: Vendor's Boxes On eBay? [Re: backtomarvel]
Jaguars2003
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Ok guys,

Need some help if possible, Has anyone ever bought/seen what a Bowman's Best 1995 factory Sealed Box looks like?

I'm trying to find a 1995 Bowman's Best Guerrero rookie card.

Anyone have any idea if these boxes could be manipulated in any way or is there no chance in doing so.
Also, say I were to pull a Guerrero card straight out of a pack, place it in a top quality holder and ship it straight to SGC in a top quality enveloppe/package next day service shipping, do you think I would get it graded at least sgc 98, ok JUST sgc 98, I know sgc 100 is almost impossible.

I dont think I would buy this box to get a brand new guerrero card graded sgc 96, nor do I wish to go with BGS or PSA even though my chances with them to get it graded bgs 9.5/10 or psa 10 would probably be much higher, but I only collect SGC for my personal collection for I know as a fact they will command a higher value in the future.

Any advice guys, should I buy a couple of these boxes? Anyone got a SGC 98 1995 BB Guerrero for sale:)

This is what the auction desrciption says:

Unopened, Factory Sealed box of 1995 Bowman's Best Baseball cards. This box contains 24 packs, with 7 cards in each pack.

And a picture:

http://www3.sympatico.ca/tomstam/gardnercc-img489x278-1062807420bowmans_best.jpg

Any advice appreciated.

Thanks.



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#178964 - 09/09/03 05:25 AM Re: Vendor's Boxes On eBay? [Re: Jaguars2003]
srs1a
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'95 Bowman's Best boxes were shrink-wrapped -- as evident in the scan. The packs are also that metallic-like plastic, so searching them isn't really a possibility. My guess is that box is fine.

On getting a 98 out of the box -- possible, but I wouldn't bank on it. You may not even pull a Vlad. I bought one box in '95 and I don't have the card. I guess I just had bad luck -- the set contains 195 cards and each box contains 168, so on average you should get one.

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#178965 - 09/09/03 06:25 AM Re: Vendor's Boxes On eBay? [Re: Jaguars2003]
deadlyembrace
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Mark Murphy ... the Baseball Card Kid ... specializes in unopened packs/boxes. His website is:

Baseball Card Kid Site

And his email is:

mark@bbckid.com

I've never dealt with him, and don't know anything about his reputation ... but he is the source that immediately comes to mind.

Hope that helps.

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