#181133 - 09/12/03 12:49 PM
Re: They'll be sold - Maybe at a Slight Discount
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Registered: 09/12/03
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Tony,
Whether your buying 81 topps or redmans always buy the card and not
the holder.
This is my first post over here. These are my pet peaves, myself being
more of a seller and buyer of modern cards and piddle in 65 fb. Why is
it I rarely get a good solid card from a major submitter then when I buy
from joe blow that only submitted 20 cards it always seems to be undergraded.
65 fb out of my subs of 100 cards 65 7's 23 8's and the rest 6's. Ok they
grade these tough. Only 17 9's were graded at the time. As of today in
one years time were sitting at 55. I've stole a few here and there only
to come to the conclusion maybe maybe a 9. I've bought over 50 8's in the
past year still with nothing that matches my 8's let alone 7's. I've been
appauled on how 70-30 has now squeaked into an 8 holder along with 3
visible touches not even with the loupe.
Now for the poor modern collectors 70-80's boys the range on the 9's can
be anything from a 7 to a 9 pd. These guys buying slabs to think they will
have something in return is a farse. Now if your going through your own
submissions and are a very picky person someone will want your cards I've
came to that conclusion after selling of 2 85% sets in high grade and have
done quite well on both. Yet you must know some folks ie team set collector
and so on.
I feel the 70s' market is glutted with overgraded cards and it's a fact. Dealers
getting the 4.00 rate only to have grader rifle down the invoice entering 8,9,10
at a percentage that always remains within 2% no matter what you send them.
I myself have graded over 8000 cards in late 70's and early 80's and never fails,
15% 10's 5% 8's and rest being 9's with no ryme or reason of what the card
yields. Beancounters anyone. 
One story that I find disturbing is a large submitter said no to about 2000 late
70's only to have another large submitter say I'll take them only to see them on
ebay a month later in guess what psa 9 fashion.
Just my 2 cents
Aka Unknown
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#181134 - 09/12/03 01:47 PM
Re: They'll be sold - Maybe at a Slight Discount
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grilloj39
I am gonna miss that car.
Registered: 08/23/03
Posts: 215
Loc: San Antonio, TX
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I do think that PSAs ability to accurately grade vintage cards has declined somewhat, however minor; but I recently brought a PSA 8 1959 Clemente and a PSA 7 1969 Clemente, and a PSA 5 OPC Gretzky Rookie. I took the cards out of the slabs (and no I didn't damage the cards), and submitted raw to GAI. My results were a GAI 7 for the 1959, GAI 5 for the 1969 and a GAI 3 for the Gretzky. I can tell you when I rec'd the PSA cards in the mail that I brought over e-bay, I was disappointed to say the least. The rest of the cards crossed over, but they were minor vintage rookies and commons. Bottom line: I got burned on the high value cards.
Only 1 card was upgraded from a PSA 6 to a GAI 7 and that was a 71 Alex Delvecchio card submitted raw.
I am seriously considering buying only GAI and SGC over the Internet. I will buy a PSA card (or SCD, BVG) if i can physically examine it.
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