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#1989860 - 09/10/09 05:46 AM Color of back on 1933 & 34 Goudey cards
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Was green the only color used on the backs of these cards? I have some that are in black print and didnt know if that automatically makes them fakes.
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#1989865 - 09/10/09 06:54 AM Re: Color of back on 1933 & 34 Goudey cards [Re: mozzartusm]
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Hi:

Black ones are fakes, yes. They're all green.

In the past two or three years, a few authentic 1933s have surfaced that have blue backs. It's unknown how these wound up this way; it's likely just an error in the printing process. I believe there are about a half dozen of them or so. I've seen one that's partially green and partially blue, which leads me to believe that they're just a print anomaly.

The 1938s are green as well, BTW. Fakes of the #274 Joe DiMaggio can often be found with black backs - I see them raw on eBay all the time, and unfortunately, people frequently pay big money for them, only to discover they've bought a fake.

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#1989884 - 09/10/09 03:52 PM Re: Color of back on 1933 & 34 Goudey cards [Re: Novocent]
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I dont know where i got these cards. It would have been many years ago when I was about 10 yrs old. I also have some 1935 Diamond stars, 1941 Playballs, 1950, 51, and 52 Bowman. I guess they are all fakes. The good news is that I didnt learn this lesson the hard way. Thanks for the info!
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#1989888 - 09/10/09 05:58 PM Re: Color of back on 1933 & 34 Goudey cards [Re: mozzartusm]
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Welcome mozzartusm!

All of those cards that you mentioned might not necessarily be reprints. If you can put up some scans or pictures of the cards, I'm sure that there are people on this forum who would be able to tell if they're real or not.
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#1989941 - 09/12/09 01:08 PM Re: Color of back on 1933 & 34 Goudey cards [Re: purduepete]
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Ok thanks. This is my first attempt at this so bare with me.


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#1989942 - 09/12/09 01:12 PM Re: Color of back on 1933 & 34 Goudey cards [Re: mozzartusm]
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I will scan some of the other brands and get them up also

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#1989953 - 09/12/09 05:25 PM Re: Color of back on 1933 & 34 Goudey cards [Re: mozzartusm]
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 Originally Posted By: mozzartusm


I will scan some of the other brands and get them up also
I am NO EXPERT here but my many years of collecting tell me that these are reprints of some sort. The first reason I say so is because the middle card has such a high sheen and certainly (although I could be wrong) not from the original 1933 Goudeys! The cards also appear to be thinner than the original card stock.
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#1989999 - 09/14/09 10:03 AM Re: Color of back on 1933 & 34 Goudey cards [Re: EARLSWORLD]
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I'd guess those would say "reprint" right where the paper-loss on the backs is located. Definetly reprints.
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#1990033 - 09/14/09 10:01 PM Re: Color of back on 1933 & 34 Goudey cards [Re: meatheadjerry]
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I thought the same thing, however there are some that dont have the paper-loss. Im trying to get them all posted but am having a hard time with my camera.
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#1990034 - 09/14/09 10:07 PM Re: Color of back on 1933 & 34 Goudey cards [Re: mozzartusm]
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The backs are from 2 Carcker jack 1915 cards

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#1990040 - 09/15/09 07:57 AM Re: Color of back on 1933 & 34 Goudey cards [Re: mozzartusm]
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I'm sorry but those all look like reprints
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#1990059 - 09/15/09 12:55 PM Re: Color of back on 1933 & 34 Goudey cards [Re: SMtJoy]
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Sorry to say I agree with Scott.

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#1990064 - 09/15/09 03:03 PM Re: Color of back on 1933 & 34 Goudey cards [Re: SMtJoy]
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 Originally Posted By: SMtJoy
I'm sorry but those all look like reprints
Now I remember...these are definitely REPRINTS...the scratched out portion of the backs are where the word REPRINT appeared...they came out of some reprint set you could buy years ago in an album of the whole set. 100% REPRINT!
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#1990067 - 09/15/09 03:50 PM Re: Color of back on 1933 & 34 Goudey cards [Re: EARLSWORLD]
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Sorry, but I agree with everyone else here that those are reprints.

For example, if you look at the Diamond Stars cards (the 'Schoolboy' Rowe & the other one), the easiest way to tell that they are both reprints is that the borders are white. Borders on authentic Diamond Stars cards are cream colored, and should exactly match any "white" area on the card (like a uniform). Like this...
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#1990117 - 09/16/09 11:10 AM Re: Color of back on 1933 & 34 Goudey cards [Re: mozzartusm]
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Thanks guys. I appreciate your comments. I got these cards years ago when I was a kid. Probably traded for them but I dont remember. I dont have big bucks tied up in them and yall have saved me the money that I would have spent grading them. Now onto another issue. My grandmothers sister which would have been my Great Aunt(Isnt that correct?) was Bill Dickeys sister-in-law. I met Mr. Dickey a few years before he passed away and had a ball autographed by him. I would like to have it graded/Authenticated. Any suggestions? On a side note. I can remember when I was very young going to stay with Bills brother Gus Dickey. They always claimed that Gus had the most talent but I think he injured his arm or something such as that. Anyway, I remember Uncle Gus had this huge Gold glove with a ball sitting in it. Many of the Big Players from that era had signed it. The Babe just being one of many.

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