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#1995861 - 04/18/10 06:26 PM old judge grading question
jdubbs10
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Hey everyone, this is my first post and am looking for some help. I have an old judge card and want to get it graded but it has some pencil writing on the back. My question is if i submit it to SGC would i get an "A" value on the card due to the writing or would i get a number grading due to the condition? thanks for the help
josh

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#1995862 - 04/18/10 08:12 PM Re: old judge grading question [Re: jdubbs10]
purduepete
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Welcome Josh!

According to their grading standards, it looks like the best you could do is to get a 30/Good grade (that is if it isn't trimmed or altered in any other way)...

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40 VG 3 90/10 or better centering, corners more rounded--but not excessive, stronger creasing may exist. Poorer focus, registration, and discoloration, and staining are more noticeable.

30 GOOD 2 Centered 90/10 or better. This card usually exhibits one or more of these characteristics: heavy print spots, heavy crease(s), pinhole(s), color or focus imperfections or discoloration, surface scuffing or tear, rounded and/or fraying corners, ink or pencil marking(s), and lack of all or some original gloss.

20 FAIR 1.5 Centered 90/10 or better. This card usually exhibits several of these characteristics: heavy print spots, heavy crease(s), pinhole(s), color or focus imperfections or discoloration, surface scuffing or tears, rounded and/or fraying corners, ink or pencil marking(s), and lack of all or some original gloss, a small portion of the card may be missing.

10 POOR 1 This card usually exhibits many of these characteristics: heavy print spots, heavy crease(s), pinhole(s), color or focus imperfections or discoloration, surface scuffing or tears, rounded and/or fraying corners, ink or pencil marking(s), and lack of all or some original gloss, small portions of the card may be missing.


Hope this helps...and good luck with the grade on your OJ!


Edited by purduepete (04/18/10 08:13 PM)
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#1995864 - 04/18/10 08:38 PM Re: old judge grading question [Re: purduepete]
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Hi Josh, welcome aboard.
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#1995866 - 04/19/10 07:07 AM Re: old judge grading question [Re: brick]
jdubbs10
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Thanks for the help. Im deciding between psa and sgc. Also, im not a pro when it come to the whole trimming issue. If i send my card in and they say it has been trimmed will I get an "A" rating or will they send it back to me and keep my money? thanks again

Edited by jdubbs10 (04/19/10 07:08 AM)

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#1995868 - 04/19/10 07:35 AM Re: old judge grading question [Re: jdubbs10]
Irwin Fletcher
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On the SGC submission form, there is a place to tell them whether or not you want an "A" designation for any altered cards. If you do not choose to apply the "A" designation, then the altered card would be returned to you without being encapsulated.
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#1995948 - 04/24/10 07:11 AM Re: old judge grading question [Re: Irwin Fletcher]
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I have sent early cards like old judges before, really depends on the overall grade and how bad the mark is. I would still sent the card in anyways and keep the comments above in mind

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#1995965 - 04/26/10 12:11 PM Re: old judge grading question [Re: jimmy33]
SMtJoy
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Most cards with solid pencil end up SGC 20, if its very light and small then maybe a 30. If you are looking to resale just go SGC, they bring better prices on OJ's than psa unless you are talking a perfect PSA 8 type OJ card.

One thing to note on OJ's is unlike normal cards the condition is a smaller factor than the imagine itself. I have seen PSA 4's sell for half of what a perfect auth gets. Because the OJ's are photos many can be very faded, ones with a crisp clear photo will bring a premium even with backdamage, ink/marks or other issues.

Here is one I paid a lot extra for because of the clarity, and another thats faded-




Edited by SMtJoy (04/26/10 12:14 PM)

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#1996131 - 05/04/10 11:45 AM Re: old judge grading question [Re: SMtJoy]
jdubbs10
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here is the mark I was talking about. Any thoughts?



Edited by jdubbs10 (05/04/10 11:47 AM)

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#1996136 - 05/04/10 02:07 PM Re: old judge grading question [Re: jdubbs10]
SMtJoy
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If not rebacked and it doesnt look like it is, it would get a SGC 20 (because of the writing on back). Well worth getting graded so the buyer knows its not a reprint (a number of these are fake) and that it was not rebacked.

Very Nice OJ, the photo is nice and clear and would bring a price much better than the grade would suggest.

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#1996143 - 05/04/10 07:44 PM Re: old judge grading question [Re: SMtJoy]
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here is a picture of the sides

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