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#2000260 - 05/01/11 11:41 AM ACTION !!!!!!
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There is not much action going on as far as set building on SGC right now.I had my 53 topps PSA set up to 20th place,a few days later it was 22nd.Now thats action.Its seems to me its getting kinda stagnant on here.Hoppy & i on the 54 SGC topps sets mostly trade with each other because we both have 2 sets started,but other than that,the 54s have zero activity.What can SGC do to generate some interest in building sets on here? I think a $3.50 special for 200 cards or more of the same set.I think thats the only way we can afford to grade commons.If u pay 6 bucks to get a $6.00 card graded,that doesnt make much sense to me.PSA has had $3.50 specials before so it is possible to do that.Brian was a driving force but Brian is gone.I dont c any1 stepping up & taking his place.They need to say u have cards u want graded,we grade cards.What do we need to do to generate some activity?Mr Stuckemeyer sets r slowly disappearing probably most r getting crossed over to PSA.They were such dominating sets i couldnt compete with them anyway.Cmon SGC & the members on here,lets get the little red arrows going & c some ACTION!!!!!!
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#2000268 - 05/01/11 03:01 PM Re: ACTION !!!!!! [Re: goldenhawk]
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SGC can have specials to increase submissions but I don't see them competing with PSA in Post War cards. The value of high grade PSA sets far exceed the value of SGC sets. There may be exceptions of individual cards in SGC holders selling for a premium but PSA is the leader by a wide margin. As you said many of the cards in the broken up sets are being crossed to PSA.
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#2000270 - 05/01/11 04:01 PM Re: ACTION !!!!!! [Re: brick]
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The ideal model for SGC Registry members is to buy raw and submit. There's not enough trading interest to do much good trading. Buying PSA and crossing is a losing proposition...why help the competition sell inconsistently graded cards?

I doubt we ever see a $3.50 special over here. Even if we do, there won't be enough time to put together a sub in less than 30 days. It needs to be an August special for the National and thereafter. If SGC announced that, I might even go to Chicago this summer.
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#2000273 - 05/01/11 05:11 PM Re: ACTION !!!!!! [Re: bbo]
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I just sent in about 50+ cards of Carew & Vikings, including the entire Sunoco Stamp Set...
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#2000277 - 05/02/11 02:31 AM Re: ACTION !!!!!! [Re: estang]
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I don't pay close attention to grading specials but when did PSA have a 3.50 special? I would assume that is a losing proposition?
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#2000281 - 05/02/11 10:50 AM Re: ACTION !!!!!! [Re: jackstraw]
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I just cant see them ever offering a $3.5 special, just does not seem like enough to make a profit on.
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#2000282 - 05/02/11 11:13 AM Re: ACTION !!!!!! [Re: goldenhawk]
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 Originally Posted By: goldenhawk
There is not much action going on as far as set building on SGC right now.I had my 53 topps PSA set up to 20th place,a few days later it was 22nd.Now thats action.Its seems to me its getting kinda stagnant on here.Hoppy & i on the 54 SGC topps sets mostly trade with each other because we both have 2 sets started,but other than that,the 54s have zero activity.What can SGC do to generate some interest in building sets on here? I think a $3.50 special for 200 cards or more of the same set.I think thats the only way we can afford to grade commons.If u pay 6 bucks to get a $6.00 card graded,that doesnt make much sense to me.PSA has had $3.50 specials before so it is possible to do that.Brian was a driving force but Brian is gone.I dont c any1 stepping up & taking his place.They need to say u have cards u want graded,we grade cards.What do we need to do to generate some activity?Mr Stuckemeyer sets r slowly disappearing probably most r getting crossed over to PSA.They were such dominating sets i couldnt compete with them anyway.Cmon SGC & the members on here,lets get the little red arrows going & c some ACTION!!!!!!


I totally agree. $3.50 (maybe even $4.00) for a set registry special would be great! They could even include some stipulation that all 200 cards must be from the same set. I, too, am building a '54 Topps set. In fact, the only card I am missing is the Aaron RC. Most of the set is raw, but the money cards are SGC graded - both Williams, Banks, Mays, J. Robinson, Kaline, Berra, Snider and Mathews. I am going to send in the Spahn, Lasorda, Ford, Ashburn and a couple of others for the May special. Anyway, if SGC offered some kind of set registry special as Goldenhawk suggested, I would definitely grade the rest of my set. However, at $6 a card it doesn't make sense to grade all those commons. There's probably 235 raw cards and it would cost me $1600 to grade the rest of the set. I don't think it would increase the value of my set by $1600, so it just isn't worth it. However, if I could get them graded for about half that price, it would probably be worth it. I would probably grade a couple of other sets as well. Are you listening, SGC?
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#2000289 - 05/02/11 08:36 PM Re: ACTION !!!!!! [Re: vintagetoppsguy]
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I think a $4.00 special would work well for all parties involved but there would need to be a minimum order (whatever that # works out to be) and a maximum value on the cards subbed (say a max of $10 for commons and no star cards) and all of the cards subbed must be from the same set.

I was pondering subbing my entire 1965 set and talked to Brian about it a couple of years ago but with 598 cards and $5 a card I was looking at $3,000 ... cough, cough. Not worth grading the $2 and $4 commons which comprise half the set.

If I could send in a sub of 100 commons from my 1965 set at $4.00 ... well, that would be enticing.

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#2000290 - 05/03/11 04:39 AM Re: ACTION !!!!!! [Re: 65bluebacks]
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Someone please explain to me why it should cost more to grade a vintage star than a vintage common.

As we say in the South, that dog won't hunt.

They're not grading the player on the front or the stats on the back of the card. They're supposed to be grading the merits of the card itself.

Now, I do understand why there should be a different cost to grade a vintage card than a modern card. The technology and paper stock are not the same.
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#2000292 - 05/03/11 10:39 AM Re: ACTION !!!!!! [Re: bbo]
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To add to this conversation (with some excitement rather than debate) I wanted to let everyone know that the Forums Board AND Registry are 2 areas SGC is most concerned about and trying to develop more. I will share that I talked with one of the guys in charge of operations and this has always been an issue dear to me. The issues are well noted and will be an area you are going to see changes that hopefully will lead to more participation and involvement in all facets. Truthfully, the Forums Board and the Registry have been quiet or "stagnant" as stated for some time. However, nothing goes unnoticed by SGC and it is on the table to innovative changes. I can't say as far as what ideas will be implemented but it would not surprise me to see more recognition and prizes given out to set builders, registry specific specials and so on. As I said in my earlier post...there are some very exciting developments happening at SGC even as this post is being read and answered. I am going to be more actively involved with getting ideas implemented as well as taking a proactive position with the Forums Board as I have been in the past. I would like to see many things get better for all of the collectors here and the enjoyment from sharing this great and wonderful Hobby with each other.
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#2000296 - 05/03/11 11:18 AM Re: ACTION !!!!!! [Re: EARLSWORLD]
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Earl,
I'm hoping that SGC will recognize team sets and perhaps collections under "The way we collect" category as well in their future registry awards. Considering that I currently only collect Packers and I know that others on here only collect certain teams, eras, and categories. Perhaps they could even look at sets that are in progress (maybe not a good idea, I don't know) as some people have a great start on certain sets. The awards could recognize sets in progress and help push collectors to finishing these sets with rewards and incentives to grade the entire set. Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing what's up for the future here at SGC. I collect SGC exclusively and stand behind the 110%. While I buy PSA, it's strictly to cross over and t be honest, their standards pale in comparison to my experience with SGC. Thanks for the info. Chris
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#2000298 - 05/03/11 12:10 PM Re: ACTION !!!!!! [Re: oldschoolpackers]
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Hey Chris...

Long time since I last heard from you! I still see the old familiar sigline tho! \:\) I just wanted to let you know that all of those things are going to be given more weight and consideration as new ideas are developed and implemented. One of the things you mention was also brought up in my conversation as to recognizing specialty sets, player sets, team sets and so on. What you are going to find is that SGC is going to be looking at new ways of creating a greater interest that will try to be as inclusive to every collector who participates in the Registry, as well as trying to draw in more collectors who either collect SGC graded cards that don't use the registry or attract collectors who may have never tried their brand and service. What is exciting, Chris, is the fact that more time and attention will be given to these issues and I think everyone will be pleased to see that the "new and improved" SGC wants to grow in every facet of their services and provide a greater collecting experience for everyone here.
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#2000405 - 05/07/11 04:31 PM Re: ACTION !!!!!! [Re: EARLSWORLD]
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PSA is like Germany.If the United States had waited 2 more yrs before entering the war,we would all be speaking German now.Im afraid were all going to be speaking PSA.
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#2000406 - 05/07/11 04:37 PM Re: ACTION !!!!!! [Re: goldenhawk]
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No problem.

We've got Rube on our side. He probably knows who "Hitler" is over there and where he's hiding out.
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#2000544 - 05/13/11 07:01 PM Re: ACTION !!!!!! [Re: EARLSWORLD]
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Could SGC ever do a registry special where they charged $6.00 a card and then credited back or put on your account $2.00 per card once the cards were actually added to the registry? Maybe $7.00 and $5.00. It would motivate people to use the registry. I am having a hard time adding to sets and as someone stated above, much of my set work is done by raw submissions, which is entertaining, but very slow moving.

On another note I broke out five PSA 1970 Topps Super glossy football and this was the outcome:

PSA 8 Griese = SGC 80
PSA 8.5 Little = SGC 84
PSA 8 Little = SGC 80
PSA 8 Biletnikof = SGC 84
PSA 9 Jackson = SGC 96


This is a little scary and relates to an above comment how trying to use PSA cards to fill in sets is high cost nightmare.

I am into the above cards for about $96.00 and they are worth about $45.00.

So - a significant registry special would be great. SGC may take a hit but long term it would help.

I choose SGC for consistency, great customer service, and the wicked (yes I am from Maine) cool holders.

Thanks SGC

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#2000550 - 05/14/11 08:34 AM Re: ACTION !!!!!! [Re: mid72]
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 Originally Posted By: mid72
I choose SGC for consistency, great customer service, and the wicked (yes I am from Maine) cool holders. Thanks SGC
I have been talking with Michael regarding trying to get some specials and discounts for Registry set collectors and there is a great interest on SGC's behalf to try and work something out individually where they can. If anyone here has a Registry submission proposal they'd like for me to try and negotiate for them, PM me and I'd be glad to see what I can do for you. One of the areas I want to see more attention and growth in is the Registry so anything I can do to help just let me know.
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