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#2008022 - 05/10/12 03:19 AM 1937 Kellogg's Pep Stamps
Irwin Fletcher
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These stamps were issued in four stamp panels with perforations between the stamps so that they could be separated and put in an album. I know that SGC grades complete panels (there are several on eBay). Does anyone know whether SGC will grade/slab individual stamps? If so, will SGC assign a numerical grade or will it be an "A" designation?

Earl - do you know?

Thanks!

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#2008025 - 05/10/12 06:33 AM Re: 1937 Kellogg's Pep Stamps [Re: Irwin Fletcher]
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 Originally Posted By: Irwin Fletcher
These stamps were issued in four stamp panels with perforations between the stamps so that they could be separated and put in an album. I know that SGC grades complete panels (there are several on eBay). Does anyone know whether SGC will grade/slab individual stamps? If so, will SGC assign a numerical grade or will it be an "A" designation?

Earl - do you know?

Thanks!
Hi Keith ~ I asked the graders and we do grade the individual stamps as well. Hope that helps! How's your Diamond Stars auto set coming along?

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#2008027 - 05/10/12 06:57 AM Re: 1937 Kellogg's Pep Stamps [Re: EARLSWORLD]
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Thanks, Earl! I hope to have one to submit in the near future.

As for the signed Diamond Stars, it is slow going, but lots of fun. They don't show up very often, so I have to be patient.

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#2008329 - 05/29/12 09:31 AM Re: 1937 Kellogg's Pep Stamps [Re: Irwin Fletcher]
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Hi, this isn't anything to do with a specific, current card and it pertains to just my dilemma. I have purchased a 1933 Sport Kings #2 Babe Ruth Card. I haven't got it yet, but I might have 10 days to return it. The seller 'assumes' its a reprint but goes on describing how 'authentic' it is. I need to authenticate the card, and SBC is recommended. I already know it's POOR, it's butt-ugly. I just really wanted to own a real Babe Ruth Card. Here is my recent auction and would appreciate some advice. Thank you. CJ

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221033118705?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

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#2008355 - 05/29/12 06:19 PM Re: 1937 Kellogg's Pep Stamps [Re: curjester1]
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Hi CJ, save yourself the money the card is a reprint, you need to return it asap. Word of advise any ebay item that the seller list as "I don't know if its fake", 99% it is fake but they are covering their butt from ebay rules by saying that. Good luck
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#2008371 - 05/30/12 02:50 PM Re: 1937 Kellogg's Pep Stamps [Re: SMtJoy]
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SMtJoy, I don't think the seller is playing games. He stated he picked this card up at a swapmeet. His ebay impeccable record shows he is selling all prints when he sells cards. I have looked at prints and real ones online, and tend to think its real. Can you offer any technical reason why it might be a fake? Thanks, CJ
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#2008378 - 05/30/12 07:41 PM Re: 1937 Kellogg's Pep Stamps [Re: curjester1]
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The color is wrong, the wear looks funny were it is exposed, etc. Also he is selling reprint T206 Wagners, 52 Mantles, the only card the seller has that is real is a new Kobe, lol. Look at past sales more reprints, I'm starting to think you are the seller but ill give you the benefit of not being but the card you purchased is fake.

Dont believe me then send it into any of the big 3 grading companies and waste some more money.

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#2008389 - 05/31/12 09:35 AM Re: 1937 Kellogg's Pep Stamps [Re: SMtJoy]
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SMtJoy, I appreciate your opinion. Why do you think the color is wrong? I can see fading but not wrong color (yet). These type of cards can run even through to the other side. Hence, its why red can be mixed with green, etc. So far on the same card reprints online, I can see a big color difference, but not here. Usually reprints like the seller sells, are in very nice condition, which is typical for a way newer card. I do plan to send it to a grading company for sure, even if it is deemed real before I send it. CJ
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#2008391 - 05/31/12 10:37 AM Re: 1937 Kellogg's Pep Stamps [Re: curjester1]
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How many different threads is this card going to be brought up??? If you think it's real, send it in for authentication! But quit asking about it over and over!
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#2008392 - 05/31/12 10:43 AM Re: 1937 Kellogg's Pep Stamps [Re: K-dog]
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Please send it in....you know what they say, a fool and his money....
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#2008393 - 05/31/12 10:55 AM Re: 1937 Kellogg's Pep Stamps [Re: SMtJoy]
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Scott and I have both told you it's a reprint, showing you what to look for. I even posted pics of a real one next to your fake one in the other thread. There's nothing else we can do to convince you.

The seller sells reprints. He is fishing. He's fishing for a sucker. He's hoping someone that is uneducated about the card (such as yourself) will purchase it. If the buyer keeps it then he's found his sucker. If the buyer sends it back, he is out nothing and keeps fishing (re-listing) for the next sucker. Eventually he'll find one. In fact, I think he just did. However, if you want to send it in and waste your money, be all means do that. By the time you realize it's a fake, your return period will be expired.

Good luck!
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#2008400 - 05/31/12 12:56 PM Re: 1937 Kellogg's Pep Stamps [Re: vintagetoppsguy]
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I just went to the seller and cancelled the order. He stated the card was not fake and from a company, and I stated it was probably made to look like it was old whether it was from a company or not. Thanks, all. CJ
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#2008401 - 05/31/12 01:23 PM Re: 1937 Kellogg's Pep Stamps [Re: curjester1]
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Smart move. You saved yourself a lot of trouble. If that's the card you want, you're better off to buy one that's already graded. That way you know what you're getting.

Are you new to the hobby? If so, this board is a great place to learn things and share information. Net 54 is also a good source, but mostly for pre-war cards.

http://www.net54baseball.com
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#2008409 - 06/01/12 07:06 AM Re: 1937 Kellogg's Pep Stamps [Re: vintagetoppsguy]
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Hi, I was really torn because I new it was a print or it was real. Obviously, 10 bidders thought the same, and wanted a card that the seller might not be too up on, or too lazy to grade, and get a once in a lifetime steal. I could never afford an even poor Babe Ruth card original. I collected when I was a kid, and had my mom throw out all of the '61 season I had collected. Grrr!! But I am sure many have experienced that. I just started back this year. I have some originals from special players, and mostly I get reprints. I have all of Billy Martin's cards, except the 58 Tigers. I met him on the town and spent the whole night with him, and well I watched they Yankees religiously from when we first got a TV and there were no west coast teams yet...:).
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#2008583 - 06/09/12 08:19 AM Re: 1937 Kellogg's Pep Stamps [Re: curjester1]
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Just an update on the Babe Ruth old looking reprint card. The seller listed it, and changed some of the wording on it:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-SPORT-KINGS...=item4ab84526a5

CJ

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#2009023 - 06/28/12 01:47 PM Re: 1937 Kellogg's Pep Stamps [Re: curjester1]
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Any opinions on this Mantle Card, real or fake?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/110905252663?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

CJ

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#2009103 - 06/30/12 01:54 PM Re: 1937 Kellogg's Pep Stamps [Re: curjester1]
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I would pass on that fake. The fake Mantle is made from different cardboard stock and has a slightly different type style on the back...

Real Mantle...


Fake Mantle...
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#2009107 - 06/30/12 07:51 PM Re: 1937 Kellogg's Pep Stamps [Re: purduepete]
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Thanks! I see it is over $11 now. I'm still kicking myself for not picking up a real one for $80 or so, though...VG-EX.
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