#2008068 - 05/12/12 07:50 AM
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Leon1945
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I know there are many experts here on the 1956 Topps Set.
What would be the value of the 1956 Duke of Flatbush in EX condition ungraded? or in a SGC 60 Holder? It such a cool looking card.
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#2008074 - 05/12/12 02:32 PM
Re: 1956 Topps Duke Snider #150
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About $45 will get you an SGC 60 or PSA 5. Yes, it is a great looking card and Duke is one of my all-time favorite ball players. No other player hit more homeruns in the 1950s than Duke Snider - not even Mantle or Mays.
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#2008075 - 05/12/12 04:53 PM
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Duke played all 10 years 1950-59. Mantle only played nine years and Mays played eight and a fraction due to military service. The #2 guy on that list also played just 8 years. If you correctly list the 1950's as 1951-1960 (the first decade A.D. began with year 1 and not year 0; therefore, it ended with year 0 and not year 9), then this #2 player on the list jumps to #1.
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Edwin Lee Mathews, Jr hit 338 homers from his 1952 rookie year through 1960. Overshadowed most of his career by Aaron, Eddie's cards, save his rookie, are extremely undervalued IMO. Granted, Mathews benefited from having Aaron in the lineup, usually hitting behind him, but dude had some pop. And not just with his bat.
He played 3rd and once when Frank Robinson stretched a double into a triple he came at Mathews spikes up. Mathews pounded Robinson's face multiple times before the dust settled.
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#2008079 - 05/13/12 04:25 AM
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Thanks Vintage
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#2008080 - 05/13/12 04:27 AM
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Interesting Bbo. How about Ted Williams serving as a combat pilot in both WW2 and Korea.
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#2008082 - 05/13/12 05:45 AM
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Yep, that's another pretty decent player whose career got interrupted. And I bet Ted never complained one bit. He probably liked shooting down the enemy as much as he liked pounding pitches into the bleachers.
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#2008085 - 05/13/12 12:00 PM
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Get ready. Someone is going to say that based on the new age mumbo jumbo of statistics Manny Ramirez was a better hitter than Ted Williams.
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#2008086 - 05/13/12 01:16 PM
Re: 1956 Topps Duke Snider #150
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Interesting Bbo. How about Ted Williams serving as a combat pilot in both WW2 and Korea.
Yup, if he wouldn't have missed those years, he probably would have finihsed with somewhere between 650-670 home runs.
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#2008087 - 05/14/12 04:24 AM
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Don't worry cammb - it doesn't matter what statistics you look at, old school or new school, the conclusion is the same: Ted Williams was probably the second greatest hitter of all-time, behind only Babe Ruth (and it's actually closer than a lot people think, especially when you consider the seasons that Williams missed for war service). Manny Ramirez doesn't come close to either of them.
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#2008088 - 05/14/12 08:19 AM
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Ted Williams was probably the second greatest hitter of all-time, behind only Babe Ruth (and it's actually closer than a lot people think, especially when you consider the seasons that Williams missed for war service)
100% Agree.
William’s career was astounding to say the least. He won the Triple Crown the year before becoming a Marine Corps pilot in WW2 and then after returning home from the war won it again the following year. Can only imagine the numbers he would have put up if didn’t lose those 3 prime years, then to get recalled again for the Korean War some years later.
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#2008089 - 05/14/12 08:30 AM
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No argument from me. I consider Williams the greatest hitter of all time
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#2008091 - 05/14/12 09:16 AM
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The media hated Teddy Ballgame. He thought sportwriters were trash, and never gave the creampuff interviews they wanted. Very similar to
Steve Carlton.
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#2008092 - 05/14/12 09:53 AM
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All the more reason to like him.
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#2008129 - 05/16/12 12:55 PM
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Bbo, speaking of Ted Williams, do you think it is a wise move to buy some of his early 50's cards in Good to very Good condition.
I just love his 1954 topps #1 card, but it costs a fortune in decent grades. I can get a G/VG raw version for about $80, and ten submit it to SGC. Who knows?
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#2008133 - 05/16/12 01:35 PM
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I'm not expecting any sportscard purchase in that grade range to be a wise move. I would only buy it if I liked looking at it.
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#2008135 - 05/16/12 04:26 PM
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I'm not expecting any sportscard purchase in that grade range to be a wise move.
I guess it depends on your budget. If your budget only allows you to buy that card in that grade range, so be it. However, if that is the case then having it graded would definitely not be a wise move. You wouldn't add any value to the card.
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#2008136 - 05/16/12 06:44 PM
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Thanks Bbo
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#2008137 - 05/16/12 06:44 PM
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Good point Vintage
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#2008142 - 05/17/12 12:43 PM
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I would grade the card just for the authenticity and and the preclusion of any alterations.
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#2008143 - 05/17/12 01:20 PM
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My thoughts exactly Cam. Good advice
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#2008144 - 05/17/12 01:29 PM
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I would grade the card just for the authenticity and and the preclusion of any alterations.
I would agree if it were a high dollar card, but we're talking a $45 card here. Why spend money to grade it? After all, why would someone alter an EX card only worth $45? I think I'm missing the point.
That said, you can usually pick up a nice PSA 5 or SGC 60 cheaper than you can buy a raw one in the same condition. If you buy a graded one, so be it, but I wouldn't spend the extra money to grade a raw one in EX condition.
Here is mine when it was graded. I recently freed it from it's tomb along with many dozen other cards. I like it much better raw.
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#2008146 - 05/17/12 05:18 PM
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I was referring to the Ted Williams card.
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#2008149 - 05/17/12 08:02 PM
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David you made a good point concering raw card prices. I still cannot figure why some raw bring higher price when a buyer could hammer down a same grade slabbed card for less.
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#2008150 - 05/18/12 06:48 AM
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I think the raw goes higher because there is hope that the card is undergraded and could be subbed for a higher grade
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#2008151 - 05/18/12 06:49 AM
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What a great looking card
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#2008152 - 05/18/12 07:13 AM
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I was referring to the Ted Williams card.
You're right. We shifted gears from a '56 Snider to a '54 Williams and I missed it somehow. I see that now after reading through the thread again.
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#2008154 - 05/18/12 07:47 AM
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Very Nice Vintage, I am jealous
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#2008155 - 05/18/12 08:04 AM
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How strange? Both shots show a head attached to a body.
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