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#2011421 - 10/01/12 10:43 AM Crossing over BVG cards? How has everyone done?
33rdStreet
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I currently have 3 BVG cards I'd like to cross. 62 Mantle BVG 7, 57 Topps Aaron BVG 8 and a 61 B Robinson BVG 8.5. Going to get me a scanner this evening then maybe I can get some opinions on them from everyone here. Has anyone had any issues crossing BVG cards. I have only ever crossed PSA to SGC dont usually grab BVG stuff but these looked good? Opinions? Comments good or bad are appreciated. Thanks all
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#2011423 - 10/01/12 10:56 AM Re: Crossing over BVG cards? How has everyone done? [Re: 33rdStreet]
gaugman
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Other people like BVG and have a lot of good things to say.

Personally I've only tried to cross 2 cards. One didn't meet minimum grade and the other was said to be trimmed. Not a big sample size but that's all I have.
Love to see your cards, especially the Aaron when you get your scanner set up

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#2011425 - 10/01/12 11:24 AM Re: Crossing over BVG cards? How has everyone done? [Re: gaugman]
oneofthree67
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Based on my knowledge: trimmed cards in clear plastic...
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#2011426 - 10/01/12 11:42 AM Re: Crossing over BVG cards? How has everyone done? [Re: oneofthree67]
Scottish Punk
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I have went the other way on a few cards. 3 out of 5 got grade bumps (2 half and 1 full). I suspect at least one of your card will get a downgrade. Beckett typically grades softer in the BVG world than their modern counterparts.
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#2011428 - 10/01/12 11:53 AM Re: Crossing over BVG cards? How has everyone done? [Re: Scottish Punk]
oneofthree67
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I hope you fair well 33rdStreet!
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#2011429 - 10/01/12 11:58 AM Re: Crossing over BVG cards? How has everyone done? [Re: oneofthree67]
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Once i get that scanner I post the three cards I am going to try and cross, get some opinions from everyone. Thanks Gary
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#2011431 - 10/01/12 11:59 AM Re: Crossing over BVG cards? How has everyone done? [Re: oneofthree67]
33rdStreet
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Once i get that scanner I post the three cards I am going to try and cross, get some opinions from everyone. Thanks Gary
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#2011432 - 10/01/12 12:07 PM Re: Crossing over BVG cards? How has everyone done? [Re: 33rdStreet]
SMtJoy
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I have crossed a few and I think they maybe grade a little soft but it really gets down to the card and making sure they didnt miss anything. Posting scans would help a lot because if we can see an issue in a scan then you can bet they will in a sub.

I also believe on expensive cards the odds are someone might have already tried and failed, just something to keep in mind.

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#2011433 - 10/01/12 12:23 PM Re: Crossing over BVG cards? How has everyone done? [Re: SMtJoy]
cammb
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Unless the card is worth more graded I generally submit to a crossover with the minimum grade. Otherwise, everything is cracked out and resubmitted.
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#2011435 - 10/01/12 02:32 PM Re: Crossing over BVG cards? How has everyone done? [Re: cammb]
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I've never crossed a Beckett card to SGC. But I have crossed Beckett graded 1952 cards to PSA.

Two dropped by a half grade.
One went up by a half grade.
One went up by a full grade.
One went up by one and one-half grades.
One stayed the same.

That tells me either Beckett or PSA (or both) have no freaking clue what they are doing.

If it were me, I judge each card on its own, but lean toward cracking and subbing to raw to SGC, if the card warranted it.
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#2011445 - 10/02/12 08:17 AM Re: Crossing over BVG cards? How has everyone done? [Re: bbo]
Scottish Punk
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I think it is continuing proof that how subjective grading really is. Particularly, when you are talking about made up grade levels. I am willing to bet that all the graders would agree that a card is nr-mt. Things get goofy when you start talking ex/nm+,nm+,nm/mt,nm/mt+, etc. How accurate can you be with all that and looking at the card for what 30 seconds?
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