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#2012211 - 11/06/12 08:31 AM Congrats to Peyton Manning...
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on yet another NFL career record.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Peyto...ack-king-110512

Is he putting up some impressive numbers this year or what?
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#2012221 - 11/07/12 04:04 AM Re: Congrats to Peyton Manning... [Re: vintagetoppsguy]
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Picked him up for next to nothing in my fantasy league draft. Have always been a Peyton fan. What a great season he's having.
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#2012225 - 11/07/12 08:05 AM Re: Congrats to Peyton Manning... [Re: vintagetoppsguy]
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How could an "over-rated" quarterback be so good?
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#2012229 - 11/07/12 08:27 AM Re: Congrats to Peyton Manning... [Re: cammb]
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 Originally Posted By: cammb
How could an "over-rated" quarterback be so good?


Win another Super Bowl, maybe??
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#2012262 - 11/07/12 05:49 PM Re: Congrats to Peyton Manning... [Re: bbo]
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Mike, did you happen to notice the record that Peyton Manning set?
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#2012263 - 11/07/12 07:28 PM Re: Congrats to Peyton Manning... [Re: cammb]
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Haven't a clue. Don't pay much attention to playground stats.
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#2012394 - 11/12/12 10:14 AM Re: Congrats to Peyton Manning... [Re: bbo]
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Stat number records are meant to be broken and usually are, Luck now owns the Rookie Pasing yards Record. Maybe we better elevate him into the All-Time greats?

In an era where the rules are so lopsided against the defense and the qb's are recievers alowed to run and throw uncontested, regular season passing records are pretty much cosmedic.

Legends are made in the post season

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#2012395 - 11/12/12 11:16 AM Re: Congrats to Peyton Manning... [Re: BigRedOne]
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 Originally Posted By: BigRedOne
Stat number records are meant to be broken and usually are, Luck now owns the Rookie Pasing yards Record. Maybe we better elevate him into the All-Time greats?

In an era where the rules are so lopsided against the defense and the qb's are recievers alowed to run and throw uncontested, regular season passing records are pretty much cosmedic.

Legends are made in the post season

John


John,

I understand what you're saying about the lopsided rules and I absolutely agree with you on that. I would not want to play defense back in the NFL today as the rules are so skewed against them. However, you have no proof whatsoever that the rules (lopsided as they are) are leading to an increase in passing yards or any other QB stat. Show me some research and maybe I'll change my mind.

The rules have changed in baseball as well. They've taken away the advantage of the pitcher and given it to the hitter. Nowdays, if a pitch gets away from you and is anywhere near the batter's head (or hits the batter), you get a warning or thrown out of the game. Also, you have these players that come up to the plate with almost full body armor allowing them to crowd the plate without the fear of being hit by the pitch. You would think all that would benfit the hitter. You would think that the number of HRs would be up. However, just the opposite is happening. Today's pitchers are better than they've been in years.

The rules of the game are going to change. As a player, you have to adapt to the rules and find ways to stay competitive.


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#2012397 - 11/12/12 03:48 PM Re: Congrats to Peyton Manning... [Re: BigRedOne]
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Sometimes you sound like that you are playing along side Bronco Nagurski, complaing about the "young whippersnappers". I'm probably older than you and have seen the development of the NFL. I know one thing. Peyton Manning is a "great quarterback. Period.
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#2012398 - 11/12/12 04:11 PM Re: Congrats to Peyton Manning... [Re: cammb]
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 Originally Posted By: cammb
development of the NFL


That's the key phrase right there. So many people don't consider the "development of the NFL" when making comparisons to players that played 50 years ago. The rules have changed. The game has changed. The players have changed. Starr and Unitas were each only 6'1" while Manning is 6'5". The players themselves have even gotten bigger. Not taking anything away from Starr or Unitas, but it would be interesting seeing them play in today's game. Could they put up the same kind of numbers they did back then? Who knows?
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