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#2012705 - 11/20/12 09:56 AM What quality of a card is most important to you?
33rdStreet
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I ask this question because I think the two major companies (SGC/PSA) look at certain qualties of our cards differntly. This is just my opinion and I know its been discussed on here before but so what right?

My personal pet peeve on my cards is the centering, its the one quality I cant get past. I recently crossed two high dollar cards (for me) from SGC to PSA (I know I know) but I have all of my 55 and 56 cards in PSA holders and decided to keep it that way. I sent two nicely centered 55's, an Aaron and a Berra. They both came back higher, the Aaron a 7.5 and the Berra an 8. I have a 55 Williams SGC 86 thats slightly off Left to right but strong everywhere else. I am fairly certain it would come back a 7 if I sent it to cross. So I have decided to just wait and look for a strong Williams card in a PSA and keep the other one to. Long story short I think they (SGC/PSA) look at centering differntly when considering a grade.

My list goes this way
Centering
Corners
Surface/focus/gloss
Edges

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#2012707 - 11/20/12 12:52 PM Re: What quality of a card is most important to you? [Re: 33rdStreet]
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I do agree SGC is more forgiving of poorly centered cards. Other than that they do a pretty good job grading cards.
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#2012708 - 11/20/12 12:57 PM Re: What quality of a card is most important to you? [Re: brick]
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I've been collecting graded cards since 1999. SGC used to be more lenient on centering, but 2-3 years ago, following a relentless hammering from collectors, SGC tightened up and IMO over-corrected on the centering criterion.

Today, I find much more out-of-spec examples in PSA holders than in SGC holders. It's difficult to change opinion, once it has been set. Therefore, many still adhere to the canard stated by brick (above).
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#2012714 - 11/20/12 01:58 PM Re: What quality of a card is most important to you? [Re: bbo]
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I agree, I think they have corrected that issue maybe going a little to far. I would have no problem crossing a well centered card graded recently by SGC. I personally think they are tougher than PSA at this point.
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#2012718 - 11/20/12 02:23 PM Re: What quality of a card is most important to you? [Re: 33rdStreet]
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I think way too far on centering....check my new hockey registered sets....
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#2012728 - 11/20/12 02:50 PM Re: What quality of a card is most important to you? [Re: 33rdStreet]
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Looking at older SGC cards I have bough over the last couple of years and comparing them with what I've submitted the last year or so, they have definitely tightened up on centering.

To answer your original question, centering, this from a corner convert. Although I still shudder when I see less than razor sharp corners. To me the card was born with centering, good or bad, cornering, or I should say, bad cornering has to do with mishandling the card, in most cases.
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#2012730 - 11/20/12 03:07 PM Re: What quality of a card is most important to you? [Re: trex]
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I agree , a card that is pack fresh and 10% off center should be higher valued than a card handled and worn. My pet peeve.
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#2012731 - 11/20/12 03:13 PM Re: What quality of a card is most important to you? [Re: CTROOP11]
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Corners is my number two, I just see the centering first. 10% of centered is fine Even 60/40 go further and razor sharp corners only go so far for me. See your point about the handling though
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#2012738 - 11/20/12 07:42 PM Re: What quality of a card is most important to you? [Re: 33rdStreet]
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I like my cards just the way I like my women. A little off-centered is OK, as long as they don't show a lot of wear, handling and abuse.
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#2012739 - 11/20/12 09:38 PM Re: What quality of a card is most important to you? [Re: bbo]
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All of them

wouldn't a blurry card stand out asap ?
centering is the next big thing or me
then I always scan the corners
followed by the edges
rotate the card, checking the surface
then flip to the back, looking for stains & centering

this isnt just me
it's many

and i think grading should be based on a 6 point criteria

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