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#2014696 - 01/11/13 01:05 PM New SGC holder?
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Well, the title does say it's SGC...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DARRYL-STRAWBERR...=item51a6b7f036
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#2014697 - 01/11/13 01:14 PM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: vintagetoppsguy]
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Oh my
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#2014699 - 01/11/13 01:38 PM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: Blackie]
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Really? Is that the new one?
I plan on sending a sub in this weekend.
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#2014700 - 01/11/13 01:42 PM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: KRB]
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thats by no means an SGC holder KRB
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#2014701 - 01/11/13 02:02 PM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: Blackie]
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 Originally Posted By: Blackie
thats by no means an SGC holder KRB

Whew, because it look ugly. I thought you were for real on this. Thanks.
Anyways i am going to be sending some Mantles and 12- 1953 topps card that should grade well. Tho i dont care for them much, so when i get them back, they are for sell.
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#2014702 - 01/11/13 02:15 PM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: KRB]
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 Originally Posted By: KRB
Anyways i am going to be sending some Mantles and 12- 1953 topps card that should grade well. Tho i dont care for them much, so when i get them back, they are for sell.


Sell me the '53 Topps raw and save yourself the grading fees.
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#2014703 - 01/11/13 02:26 PM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: vintagetoppsguy]
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I could do that, let me scan them and see what we can come up with
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#2014704 - 01/11/13 02:28 PM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: KRB]
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That'll work. Just let me know. I'm looking for anything VG/EX or better.
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#2014708 - 01/11/13 02:42 PM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: vintagetoppsguy]
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Let me know what you willing to do? trade? I am not that good on judging what grade, no crease or bends.
could be very better than 5's, i dont know myself.
Opinions welcomed

Some of the holders have tape residue, its not the card


Edited by KRB (01/11/13 02:43 PM)
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#2014709 - 01/11/13 02:51 PM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: KRB]
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Those are worthy of being graded. Should easily earn back your grading fee. Eddie Robinson looks like an 88. Sawatski, Glynn & Ditmar 88 or 86. Hoffman and others 84 or so. I don't see anything worse than a 60/70 assuming you're right about no creases or other major flaws. If it were me, I'd grade 'em.
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#2014714 - 01/11/13 04:09 PM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: bbo]
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 Originally Posted By: bbo
Those are worthy of being graded. Should easily earn back your grading fee. Eddie Robinson looks like an 88. Sawatski, Glynn & Ditmar 88 or 86. Hoffman and others 84 or so. I don't see anything worse than a 60/70 assuming you're right about no creases or other major flaws. If it were me, I'd grade 'em.


Thanks, that seem better than i hope, i will send them in then. If some can fetch near BV 100, then yes its a no brainer. THANKS BBO.
Then i will sell them graded. It help my Mantle whales.
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#2014721 - 01/11/13 05:51 PM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: KRB]
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If any come back between 50-70, I'll be a buyer.
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#2014739 - 01/11/13 08:04 PM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: vintagetoppsguy]
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I agree grade them
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#2014748 - 01/12/13 08:14 AM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: SMtJoy]
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I just sent my 2nd ever SUBMISSION in this morning.
I had some questions concerning the paperwork tho, but went ahead to get them out.
12- 1953 topps card
1- 1958 topps card
1- 1966 Dexter press (oversize)
1- 1909/11 T206 (re-review free)

I used the post 1948/ $7 rate (10 min)
but i also had that Dexter Press 66 card, which is oversized...so i made that a $20 card.
But it says to choose 1...I didnt know what to do here??
Plus was that T206 that is to be re-reviewed FREE

Would i had to do 2 invoices submissions? and pay for shipping/handling 2 times? Couldn;t they ship them together?


Anyways i sent Bill a email concerning this, and hope if anything comes up, i pay to correct it.
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#2014750 - 01/12/13 09:14 AM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: KRB]
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They will fix it when it arrives. You should be OK. PSA would require you to have 4 invoices for that group: (1) pre-1956, (2) post-1955, (3) oversized and (4) review. Plus you would have to join their CC for $99 or $199 and that would get you a free SMR every month. "Never get cheated."
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#2014752 - 01/12/13 10:29 AM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: KRB]
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I think you're going to be surprised with your '53s (and not in a good way). My guess is that most will grade SGC 30-70 range, with maybe a 6 or 6.5 in there. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm just basing my opinion on what I see (and mostly what I don't). Good luck and let us know how they come out.
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#2014753 - 01/12/13 10:46 AM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: vintagetoppsguy]
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Grats and you should be fine, they will get it straightened out. As bbo said if that was an order to PSA it would have required 4 invoices and separate shipping for each, rip off.

I also think your grades will be in the mid range, not sure why thats a bummer but even if most are in the lower range you will learn how they grade and what to look for on your next sub better. Its always a learning experience your first couple subs.

Cant wait for them to get back!

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#2014754 - 01/12/13 10:58 AM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: SMtJoy]
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Thanks for the info guys.
I'm still a newbie to this whole grading thing.
Thats why i prefer buying cards already done.
I know i can cut cost by buying raw, its just what to look for and any fakes on the market.
I dont have that light loop thingy you refer to or a black light room. I may not have 10,000 cards, but i do have bought some nice cards and hopefully hand them down to my nephew one day.

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Vtoppsguy- when they come back, I'll post the results and then see what happens.
I have more hopes on that 58 Mantle coming back better than predicted.
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#2014755 - 01/12/13 11:17 AM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: KRB]
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As Scott said, it's a learning experience. It will teach you what to look for. Any of us that submit cards went through the same learning process. If you don't already have one, you should consider purchasing a lighted loupe and a black light. Both can be found pretty easily and are fairly inexpensive.
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#2014759 - 01/12/13 02:59 PM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: vintagetoppsguy]
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I agree a loupe is a must they are less than 10 bucks on ebay.

Here is one I have, I also have a mag glass thats x 5 but much larger.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Magnifier-10x-21...=item35bf5be38d


When you look at a card thru one you will get a better understanding of what the graders are seeing.

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#2014761 - 01/12/13 05:04 PM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: SMtJoy]
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Cant beat that price 2.28
If i was into buying raw, thats a must, a easy decision to buy it.
What does a black light do, I may ask??
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#2015308 - 01/28/13 08:06 AM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: vintagetoppsguy]
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Hello all! I'm new to the SGC world and just purchased a 1961 Musial Topps graded 80 EXMT. I purchased this from my phone so the scans were small and I couldn't really study it. Can anyone tell me if this is an old SGC label? I asked the seller about the right edge of the holder and he said it is light frosting which is common, even freshly graded cards. Bottom line, can anyone tell if this is legit from my scans? Thanks!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1961-Topps-290-S...cvip=true&rt=nc

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#2015314 - 01/28/13 09:41 AM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: Shawn]
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Looks legit to me. Decent price considering this isn't a good time to be buying Musial cards
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#2015316 - 01/28/13 10:14 AM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: brewing]
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Cool, I was worried cause the SGC label looks different. It's missing the website address and the single digit grade, plus the back of the label looks green & gold. May be the pic, I haven't received it.

On a side note, what's the lowest grade you would purchase for a vintage card? I'm building my collection to pass on to my son someday (he's only 8 mo. now).

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#2015317 - 01/28/13 10:46 AM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: Shawn]
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Welcome Shawn! I try to stay SGC 60 and above now wit my set. I collect like you for enjoyment and to pass down to my grandkids.
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#2015351 - 01/29/13 03:27 AM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: Blackie]
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I had asked the flip question before and with the help of several of these guys - have come up with a timeline on the SGC flips.

(1) SG on the front Pre 1999
(2) SGC on the front minus 1-10 grade 1999 thru 2004
(3) SGC on the front plus 1-10 grade plus gold label on the back 2005 thru 2008
(4) SGC on the front plus 1-10 grade plus SGC pressed into the back 2009 thru Current

So it looks like the card in question is a PRE 99 SGC Slab

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#2015355 - 01/29/13 04:44 AM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: Toledo Mudhen]
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 Originally Posted By: Toledo Mudhen
I had asked the flip question before and with the help of several of these guys - have come up with a timeline on the SGC flips.

(1) SG on the front Pre 1999
(2) SGC on the front minus 1-10 grade 1999 thru 2004
(3) SGC on the front plus 1-10 grade plus gold label on the back 2005 thru 2008
(4) SGC on the front plus 1-10 grade plus SGC pressed into the back 2009 thru Current

So it looks like the card in question is a PRE 99 SGC Slab


There is even another variant. The pressed on SGC (the latest slab) had a short period were the press was on the inside of the slab instead of the outside where it is now.
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#2015384 - 01/30/13 03:30 PM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: vintagetoppsguy]
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 Originally Posted By: vintagetoppsguy
I think you're going to be surprised with your '53s (and not in a good way). My guess is that most will grade SGC 30-70 range, with maybe a 6 or 6.5 in there. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm just basing my opinion on what I see (and mostly what I don't). Good luck and let us know how they come out.



Just posted in the Mail call thread...but figured i reply here with the feedback some guys wanted to hear:

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Item # Year Publisher Set Card# Player Name Description Grade
1 1953 Topps 182 BOB HOFMAN 60
2 1953 Topps 203 CLIFF FANNIN 60
3 1953 Topps 100 BILL MILLER 55
4 1953 Topps 217 MURRAY WALL 70
5 1953 Topps 140 TOMMY GLAVIANO 60
6 1953 Topps 89 CHUCK STOBBS 55
7 1953 Topps 171 BILL GLYNN 80
8 1953 Topps 73 EDDIE ROBINSON 80
9 1953 Topps 83 HOWIE POLLET 60
10 1953 Topps 212 JACK DITTMER ROOKIE 80
11 1953 Topps 202 CARL SAWATSKI 60
12 1953 Topps 22 HOWIE FOX 60
13 1958 Topps 150 MICKEY MANTLE 55
14 1966-67 Dexter Press MICKEY MANTLE N.Y. Yankees 40
15 2013 Regrade REGRADE 0 - T


DONT KNOW WHAT 0-T stands for, i hope they slabbed the card "A" anyways. I hated that CSA holder


Edited by KRB (01/30/13 03:31 PM)
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#2015385 - 01/30/13 03:35 PM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: KRB]
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NICE Brother!!! As a 1958 guy.........i really like the SGC 55 Mantle.

Not sure what T means.........it may mean trimmed.
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#2015388 - 01/30/13 04:24 PM Re: New SGC holder? [Re: KRB]
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At least there were none in the 30-50 range. If 55 is your worst grade, you did OK, but if you're like most of us, probably at least a little disappointed. But an 80 grade on a 60-year old card is pretty good. It's tough for us to grade with just scans.

If you did not specify to slab if authentic, then that card will come back to you in the CSA holder.
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