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#2015155 - 01/23/13 05:40 AM What's a rookie card?
brewing
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What's your definition?

What these cards, are they rookies?
1949 Leaf Rizzuto
1949 Leaf Musial
1949 Bowman Jackie Robinson
1952 Topps Mantle
1982 Topps traded Ripken
1985 Fleer Puckett
1987 Topps Bonds

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#2015156 - 01/23/13 06:00 AM Re: What's a rookie card? [Re: brewing]
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 Originally Posted By: brewing
What's your definition?

What these cards, are they rookies?
1949 Leaf Rizzuto - Not even close
1949 Leaf Musial - Not even close
1949 Bowman Jackie Robinson - No
1952 Topps Mantle - No
1982 Topps traded Ripken - No
1985 Fleer Puckett - Yes
1987 Topps Bonds - Yes


IMO, a "rookie card" is printed the year of or after the players rookie season.

The '49 Leaf Rizzuto and Musial came out 8 years after their debut. They have no rookie cards as far as I know.

The '49 Leaf Robinson came out 2 years after Robinson's debut. 1947 Bond Bread is his RC.

1951 Bowman is Mantle's RC, not 1952 Topps.

1982 Topps is Ripken's RC, not 1982 Topps Traded.

I consider the 1985 Fleer Puckett and 1987 Topps Bonds to be their rookie cards although they each had another card a year earlier (1984 Fleer Update and 1986 Topps Traded) because, IMO, a "rookie card" should be a regular issue card (a random pull from a pack).
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#2015157 - 01/23/13 06:12 AM Re: What's a rookie card? [Re: brewing]
VANSLYKEFAN18
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 Originally Posted By: brewing
What's your definition?

What these cards, are they rookies?
1949 Leaf Rizzuto - NO
1949 Leaf Musial - NO
1949 Bowman Jackie Robinson - YES
1952 Topps Mantle - NO
1982 Topps traded Ripken - NO
1985 Fleer Puckett - YES
1987 Topps Bonds - YES


IMO a RC is the first regular issue card of that player. So I would say Rizzuto/Musial 49 Leaf no, because Rizzuto is in the 41 Double Play set, and if you don't consider that regular issue, he was in the 48 Bowman set along with Musial.

This brings up a good discussion of the TPG definition of a Rookie Card. There are some questionable rookie designations, and I would love to see some changes where applicable.

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#2015158 - 01/23/13 06:56 AM Re: What's a rookie card? [Re: VANSLYKEFAN18]
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Here is a list I use for rookie cards-

http://www.oldcardboard.com/ref/rookies/RookiesList.asp

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#2015169 - 01/23/13 09:19 AM Re: What's a rookie card? [Re: SMtJoy]
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 Originally Posted By: SMtJoy
Here is a list I use for rookie cards-

http://www.oldcardboard.com/ref/rookies/RookiesList.asp


IMO - Minor league cards should not be rookie cards or cards distributed regionally.
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#2015183 - 01/23/13 02:33 PM Re: What's a rookie card? [Re: FYS]
brewing
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 Originally Posted By: FYS

IMO - Minor league cards should not be rookie cards or cards distributed regionally.


I agree.

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