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#2015550 - 02/08/13 07:29 AM Card Grading Question
K-Nole
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I have an inquiry into a seller on a card he is grading at VG. He states the corners and edges are perfect, but the reason he is saying "VG" is because of " 5 X 95" Off center.

Can somebody scan a card for an example for me of a "5 X 95" off center, so I know what to expect if I buy this card.

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#2015551 - 02/08/13 08:23 AM Re: Card Grading Question [Re: K-Nole]
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Here are several examples of PSA graded cards with OC (off center) qualifier. They are probably close to the 5%/95%. I also included a PSA graded MC (miscut) which in my opinion is worse than the 5/95% as far as centering goes. Hope this helps. A card with perfect centering would be 50/50% all around you would see an equal amount of white border around the card. If the card is vintage, and presents well otherwise, it might still be a nice card...I would request a scan from the seller and post it here....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-Topps-Yanke...c3#ht_139wt_818

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-OPC-Whitey-...53#ht_120wt_818

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1959-Topps-380-H...3#ht_1467wt_818


Edited by Scottgia3 (02/08/13 08:24 AM)

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#2015552 - 02/08/13 08:38 AM Re: Card Grading Question [Re: Scottgia3]
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Good examples, when I see 95/5 centering I just think that one side will have almost no border with the possibility of two side. Granted when both T/B and R/L are off then its probably more miscut than offcenter.
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#2015553 - 02/08/13 09:22 AM Re: Card Grading Question [Re: SMtJoy]
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A 95/5 card has 19 times more border on one side than the other. That would look like a 20-lane highway, with you driving in the far right lane (or on the shoulder). You couldn't hit a 9-iron across that freeway. TPG'ers and I have a disagreement on centering. A 60/40 card can grade a 9, but rarely does due to the eye appeal. In fact, a 9 can be as bad as 65/35!! The graders just won't give it a 9, even though the standards say it can be. A 60/40 card has 50% more border on one side than on the other. A 60/40 card looks butt-ugly to a centering freak.

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#2015555 - 02/08/13 12:31 PM Re: Card Grading Question [Re: bbo]
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I agree with BBO on the centering (Did I just say that)

While I am a centering freak, I also agree that a card with 60/40 centering or even worse can still have all the other attributes of a Mint card and therefore be called Mint.

In cases like this I also believe that there is no reason for a o/c qualifier as that will be obvious to any viewer of the card. The o/c qualifier puts a preconcived notion on the card.
Different collectors have different tolerances for centering so it should be left up to them to decide if the centering is acceptable to them.

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#2015556 - 02/08/13 12:36 PM Re: Card Grading Question [Re: BigRedOne]
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Perfect! Thanks. I can live with this, as long as none of the "Face" of the card is missing, I am good with it.
I am just CONSUMED with getting 1972 Topps Football High #'s. I just dont want pin holes, tears, writing, or paper loss.

Thanks.

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#2015557 - 02/08/13 12:59 PM Re: Card Grading Question [Re: K-Nole]
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