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#2016699 - 04/18/13 04:41 AM Re: GUESS THE GRADE. [Re: BigRedOne]
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If one dislikes the specs, become a grader, or better yet, start a grading company. If one dislikes the law, run for Congress.
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#2016701 - 04/18/13 08:41 AM Re: GUESS THE GRADE. [Re: bbo]
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I guess I don't win jack sh**! \:\)
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#2016704 - 04/18/13 02:50 PM Re: GUESS THE GRADE. [Re: DrD]
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 Originally Posted By: DrD
I guess I don't win jack sh**! \:\)


Good you have a sense of humor about it. \:\)
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#2016705 - 04/18/13 03:38 PM Re: GUESS THE GRADE. [Re: trex]
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OK. I broke the card out. There is a an ultra slight wrinkle in the top right corner. That doesnt detract from the card one bit. The corner is still razor sharp. This should have gotten an 82 at the least imo. Maybe I will send it to PSA for an 8. lol



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#2016706 - 04/18/13 04:22 PM Re: GUESS THE GRADE. [Re: cammb]
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Its a nice card all the way around Tony! Wonder if it could get an 82 next time around.
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#2016707 - 04/18/13 06:20 PM Re: GUESS THE GRADE. [Re: cammb]
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 Originally Posted By: cammb
OK. I broke the card out. There is a an ultra slight wrinkle in the top right corner. That doesnt detract from the card one bit. The corner is still razor sharp. This should have gotten an 82 at the least imo. Maybe I will send it to PSA for an 8. lol



Well, good luck with it, but nothing higher than a 5 (EX) can have any wrinkle, according to everything I've researched. Of course we all know PSA is notorious for missing these, so, it just might slip by. But then, assume PSA does grade it higher than a 5, as you say an 8. Now down the road a bit, you decide to sell the card, you know it has a wrinkle in the top right corner and you also know it's difficult to see in a holder and in any other manner other than out of the holder and in direct light with just the right angle, and you also now know the card is no better than a 5. Do you in good conscience sell the card as an 8? And if you answer yes, how would you feel if someone did the same thing to you?

Just playing devil's advocate. I don't really think you'd do that.

BTW, it's a very nice looking card from a distance. I think it was John, BigRedOne, who said a couple of days ago, "you can't accurately judge a card without having it in hand." Hmmm!
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#2016708 - 04/18/13 10:20 PM Re: GUESS THE GRADE. [Re: trex]
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[/quote]
BTW, it's a very nice looking card from a distance. I think it was John, BigRedOne, who said a couple of days ago, "you can't accurately judge a card without having it in hand." Hmmm! [/quote]


In this case, even having the card "In Hand" proved difficult to accurately judge the card.

Its still a very nice looking card, but a wrinkle will most definately detract from the card in the eyes of the graders.

John
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#2016713 - 04/19/13 08:52 AM Re: GUESS THE GRADE. [Re: trex]
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I have to disagree to a point. Brcause a tpger says one grade doesnt mean I have to agree with it. In my humble opinion, this card grades ex/nm. I will send you the card for your opinion if you care.
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#2016721 - 04/19/13 04:11 PM Re: GUESS THE GRADE. [Re: cammb]
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Nah, don't send it. I've already said it's a nice looking card from a distance, I'm just stating everything I've researched indicates any card with a wrinkle won't grade any higher then EX. I don't have a dog in the hunt.
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#2016725 - 04/20/13 12:03 AM Re: GUESS THE GRADE. [Re: cammb]
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 Originally Posted By: cammb
I have to disagree to a point. Brcause a tpger says one grade doesnt mean I have to agree with it. In my humble opinion, this card grades ex/nm. I will send you the card for your opinion if you care.


Cammb

Your ABSOLUTELY right that you don't have to agree with any TPGer. That is just one person's opinon. But if you submit the card to any TPGer you are agreeing to their terms and "Specs"

See BBO's post a few posts ago.

What's the progress on the Tobacco cards you were breaking out? Would love to see some pics of that project.

John
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