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#2016940 - 05/05/13 08:24 AM Registry Economics and Advanced Math
rgold
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I just added these two cards to my 1933 Goudey set. The Waite Hoyt card was an upgrade from Sgc 84 and the Fred Leach an upgrade from SGC 70.

Nevermind that the Hoyt was a very tough card, it has an SGC Power Rating of 3 which goes for any old minor Hall of Famer. The Leach which is also a toughie has an SGC Power Rating of 1 like any common.

Now here is where it gets interesting. At least to me.

My Hall of Famer Waite Hoyt upgrade from SGC 84 to 88 was worth a mere .04 Set Superiority Points while my common Fred Leach upgrade from SGC 70 to 86 was worth the same!

So, I was thinking, the Hoyt SGC 88 upgrade cost me about $700. I paid about $1,100 and should get $400 selling the SGC 84. That's $175 per .01 Set Priority Points.

Whereas, the Leach SGC 86 upgrade cost me about $100. I paid about $150 and should get $50 selling the SGC 70. That's only $25 per .01 Set Priority Points!!! \:\) \:\) \:\)

Do any of you consider the cost of a card versus the Set Priority Points you get by adding the card to your set? For example, do you ever think you would rather upgrade a few commons rather than one Hall of Famer, and get a bigger bang for the same or much less bucks?


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COMPLETION: 99%
SET SUPERIORITY: 83.05
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#2016941 - 05/05/13 10:23 AM Re: Registry Economics and Advanced Math [Re: rgold]
mattbojo
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Ron,

Your new Hoyt card is a beauty. I always prefer to upgrade the Stars/HOF's vs. worrying about hundredths of a registry point gain from upgrading a common. Of course I have done both
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#2016942 - 05/05/13 04:15 PM Re: Registry Economics and Advanced Math [Re: rgold]
FYS
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 Originally Posted By: rgold
I just added these two cards to my 1933 Goudey set. The Waite Hoyt card was an upgrade from Sgc 84 and the Fred Leach an upgrade from SGC 70.

Nevermind that the Hoyt was a very tough card, it has an SGC Power Rating of 3 which goes for any old minor Hall of Famer. The Leach which is also a toughie has an SGC Power Rating of 1 like any common.

Now here is where it gets interesting. At least to me.

My Hall of Famer Waite Hoyt upgrade from SGC 84 to 88 was worth a mere .04 Set Superiority Points while my common Fred Leach upgrade from SGC 70 to 86 was worth the same!

So, I was thinking, the Hoyt SGC 88 upgrade cost me about $700. I paid about $1,100 and should get $400 selling the SGC 84. That's $175 per .01 Set Priority Points.

Whereas, the Leach SGC 86 upgrade cost me about $100. I paid about $150 and should get $50 selling the SGC 70. That's only $25 per .01 Set Priority Points!!! \:\) \:\) \:\)

Do any of you consider the cost of a card versus the Set Priority Points you get by adding the card to your set? For example, do you ever think you would rather upgrade a few commons rather than one Hall of Famer, and get a bigger bang for the same or much less bucks?


RGOLD 33 GOUDEY

AVERAGE WEIGHTED SET SCORE: 86.94
COMPLETION: 99%
SET SUPERIORITY: 83.05
USER NAME: rgold
MEMBER'S EMAIL: rgold7000@aol.com






I really think the points should be adjusted with time. They are/were based originally on the standard catalog. Time for some updating based on populations, rarities, VCP (instead of Beckett/SCD Catalog) etc. Could be an advantage for SGC, if they truly took this into account. Not sure if anyone else does this.
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#2016943 - 05/06/13 03:17 AM Re: Registry Economics and Advanced Math [Re: FYS]
Toledo Mudhen
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Yes, I agree. I have been hangin round on the boards for about 8 years and I'm sure that the points have not changed in that time period. If anyone on SGC side is listening - a couple more items would be nice as well :

Have the calculation update at the top of one's "edit" registry page - in real time

For the life of me - I can't seem to "reverse engineer" the overall superiority calculation. Any chance of finding that out?

great post!

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#2016946 - 05/06/13 12:32 PM Re: Registry Economics and Advanced Math [Re: Toledo Mudhen]
brewing
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 Originally Posted By: Toledo Mudhen


For the life of me - I can't seem to "reverse engineer" the overall superiority calculation. Any chance of finding that out?

(The sum of Grade*pwr rating for each graded card)/(sum of all pwr ratings for set)



I have a spreadsheet I can e-mail you.

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#2016949 - 05/06/13 03:43 PM Re: Registry Economics and Advanced Math [Re: brewing]
DrD
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I think we have a board of eggheads!!!

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#2016954 - 05/07/13 04:01 AM Re: Registry Economics and Advanced Math [Re: DrD]
BigRedOne
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Short answer.... NO

I don't lose sleep worring about registry numbers.

My only concern is obtaing the nicest eye appealing card.


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#2016958 - 05/07/13 05:26 AM Re: Registry Economics and Advanced Math [Re: BigRedOne]
Toledo Mudhen
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John,

Thanks for the reality check..... In my defense - I crunch numbers all day long and just can't seem to "relax"

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