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#2016988 - 05/11/13 05:41 PM Guess the Grade & more
bbo
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A) Guess the grade of the two Joe Gaines cards.
B) Regardless of grade, which card would you keep for your set.
C) Why?

Both fronts scanned as one file (and both backs scanned as one file) at 300 dpi with -8 contrast and -8 brightness. No other effort to distinguish or differentiate the two cards.

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#2016989 - 05/11/13 07:01 PM Re: Guess the Grade & more [Re: bbo]
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A). PSA 8; PSA 8

B). Left

C). Better color & focus, sharper corners
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#2016990 - 05/11/13 07:06 PM Re: Guess the Grade & more [Re: bbo]
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A) left, 8; right 7
B) left
C) 2 grades higher (better centering, sharper corners, brighter colors, etc., etc., etc.

Is this a trick question? Bet you are gonna expose some PSA grading discrepancies, huh?
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#2016991 - 05/11/13 08:41 PM Re: Guess the Grade & more [Re: jehoppy]
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a) Psa 7, Psa 8.
B) left
C) Buy the card not the holder. Better color and corners on
left card.

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#2016992 - 05/12/13 02:58 AM Re: Guess the Grade & more [Re: aconte]
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A) left, 8; right 7
B) left
C) Just looks like it is better centered and nice corners

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#2016993 - 05/12/13 11:54 AM Results Posted: Guess the Grade & more [Re: bbo]
bbo
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Aconte got the closest to the correct answer, although he was off by a full grade on each card. He somehow knew the card on the right graded higher, even though the card on the left appears superior.

Apparently those who posted on this thread are conditioned to be tougher graders than the professionals. I generally agree with most everyone's comments regarding grading. One thing not mentioned by anyone is the MINT 9 card is shorter top/bottom than the 8. It is not trimmed as far as I can tell. The overstrike on the 8 does leave some residue/print spots on the back above the year column and the lower left front that doesn't show up well on the scan. That might have bothered the grader.

I bought both cards already graded. The 8 I have owned for quite some time and decided a while back to crack it for a resub. It came back 8 again. I bought the 9 on eBay and was disappointed when it arrived. It was no better, maybe worse, than the 8. I believe the correct grades are 8.5 on the left and 8, maybe 8.5 on the right. I believe both miss the MINT 9 grade for the reasons I and others have posted. I don't think SGC would have graded either card a 9.

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#2016994 - 05/12/13 02:11 PM Re: Results Posted: Guess the Grade & more [Re: bbo]
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BBO,

I guess those lower grades based on what you had shown us
usually here are 8's and 9's. I can see both as 8's too but the
one on the left is definitely nicer.

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