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#2018305 - 12/19/13 03:28 PM first SGC submission is home to roost
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Hi all, I just received my first SGC submission back from SGC. Right on time, it was a 20 day order.

I sent 3 1950 Bowman Wild West cards. The grades were a 45, a 60 and an 80.

I also sent 12 1950 Ed-U-Cards Lone Ranger. The grades ranged from 30 to 70.

I am not unhappy with the grades. Of course I wished some had been better, but it seems these are very tough cards to find in higher grades. One of the Bowman's was number A-28 Ambush. It was graded 45 VG+, the colors on the front are still very pretty. Plus, between what I paid for the raw cards plus the grading, I feel I'm not overpaying.

So, I hope we can get a nice forum going on non-sports cards. While I love baseball cards, I'm really looking forward to completing some Western non-sports sets also. I'll try to scan some of the fronts for posting on here in the next few days.


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#2018307 - 12/19/13 06:28 PM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: Bammer]
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#2018310 - 12/19/13 07:27 PM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: Bammer]
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Beautiful card bammer
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#2018311 - 12/19/13 10:07 PM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: Blackie]
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Thanks Blackie. What surprised me is normally I'm a top graded buyer, but these cards are still pretty in the low grades. This one is a good example, it only graded a 45 VG+, but the color on the front is still gorgeous. Hopefully I will scan the other 2 I have tomorrow.
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#2018315 - 12/20/13 06:35 AM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: Bammer]
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Kemosabe, why beard and no mask? Hey, what the....{bang}
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#2018319 - 12/20/13 02:33 PM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: bbo]
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#2018320 - 12/20/13 02:40 PM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: Bammer]
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Good gosh those are sweet man.......like pieces of artwork. Great looking stuff keep posting pics
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#2018321 - 12/20/13 04:30 PM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: Bammer]
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Consider the 1933-40 Indian Gum cards, 216 different subjects and lots of variations. I've been working on it for years and not even half way done.

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#2018323 - 12/20/13 07:28 PM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: rgold]
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rgold, those are gorgeous. I would like to do that set, but like you said, it's a big one. Please keep posting pics, I know I will love to look at them. I've got some 1950 ED-U-Cards Lone Rangers to scan and I'll try to post some.

Maybe I ought to explain why I like these sets. 2 reasons, first, I like the west. Second, I used to be a pressman in a small print shop. For the technology in use when these were printed, I can't believe how beautiful they are, even in lower grades like mine. I hope we can both keep posting, and I'm going to check out your site.

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#2018324 - 12/20/13 07:34 PM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: Bammer]
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don't have much non sports but I think I have these stashed somewhere.......I will have to look. I know I had a bunch of em at one time. Here are some pics I saved to photobucket


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#2018326 - 12/20/13 09:48 PM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: Blackie]
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Very nice Blackie. It just amazes me how some of these cards from the 50's still have amazing color. That's what drew me to the non-sport sets. Quite frankly, I have thought a few times about getting rid of all my modern baseball and just do the vintage. I have both, but these old sets are truly worth being saved. Nice scans. Thanks for sharing.
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#2018327 - 12/20/13 09:50 PM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: Blackie]
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oh by the way Blackie, how is your daughter doing??? I know we don't know each other, but I've been saying a little prayer for her. That diabetes can be rough. I see the football set is coming right along. Anyway, just really wanted you to know there are prayers for her.
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#2018329 - 12/20/13 10:22 PM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: Bammer]
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Thanks so much brother!! She is learning how to give her own insulin shots now. Proud of her!
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#2018331 - 12/21/13 02:36 AM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: Blackie]
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#2018332 - 12/21/13 02:43 AM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: rgold]
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#2018333 - 12/21/13 03:05 AM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: rgold]
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Or consider the 1934 Sky Birds set, only 108 cards. And I know where you can find a great mid grade starter set.



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#2018337 - 12/21/13 06:11 AM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: rgold]
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Wow! some absolutely beautiful non-sport issues here!

If it's cards, I likely do it! and I love the non-sport issues as well!

Ive fell in love with and have been working on the 1934 Garbaty embossed set.






Ive also picked up a few other Movie Stars Tobacco sets fron the 30's




And its only fitting that it being the holidays that I should leave you with this Gem.











Happy Holidays!!!!
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#2018338 - 12/21/13 06:38 AM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: BigRedOne]
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Nipple sighting.
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#2018346 - 12/21/13 08:53 AM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: bbo]
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I go in to look at the nipple sighting.The 1st thing i c is the indian,im thinking BBO is messing with everybody,then I saw & that was worth it.
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#2018353 - 12/21/13 11:49 AM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: goldenhawk]
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Fellows, keep posting the scans. All of them are awesome. As I said in an earlier post, I like the western theme sets, but I enjoy looking at all of them. The movie star cards sure have excellent printing. I've said before it amazes me how nice the printing is on these older cards, and how the colors can just pop right out at you. All in all, let's keep the scans coming. As a thought maybe we could each do a post on a specific set, telling how easy/hard it is to find the cards, what grades are the easiest to find, etc. Just a thought, as I would love to get a strong, vibrant non sport cards forum going.
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#2018354 - 12/21/13 11:52 AM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: BigRedOne]
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Who put out the Garbaty cigarettes. That's a brand I've never heard of. Are they possibly an English brand? How many cards in the set???
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#2018363 - 12/22/13 03:37 AM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: Bammer]
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Everything you ever wanted to know about the Garbatys. I purchased several cards on the Net 54 Boards a few months back. Great looking Cards - Lots of History - Totally under appreciated... Enjoy

http://mdsportscards.blogspot.com/2009/03/cigarettes-hollywood-starlets-and-nazis.html



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#2018364 - 12/22/13 07:10 AM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: Toledo Mudhen]
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Toledo is correct and that is and excellent blog on the Garbatys.

The was also a similar article an issue of SMR awhile back. The history and its ties to Nazis Germany is really very interesting.

As Bammer stated earlier, It is really quite amazing the print quality on many of these types of older cards.

Im still missing 8 cards from Series one.
and 10 cards from Series two.
mostly the Marlende Deitrichs and Greta Garbos.

As well as the absolute beauty, the cards seem to have a mysterious look to them. In todays high tech world, its interesting to wonder the lifestyle and how dramatic it has changed.

The photos seem ancient, but in reality it was only 80 years ago.



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#2018365 - 12/22/13 07:42 AM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: BigRedOne]
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John those are nice!!
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#2018366 - 12/22/13 09:44 AM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: Blackie]
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1888 Duke Great Americans. Not bad for cards 125 years old.







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#2018367 - 12/22/13 09:55 AM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: rgold]
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Some more movie star cards.





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#2018368 - 12/22/13 11:07 AM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: rgold]
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Wow rgold, you have some beautiful cards. Those are the first W. Duke Sons & Co. cards I have seen. I see they're 6's and 7's and the colors are nice and vibrant. Very nice!!! How hard are they to find??? I was going to limit myself to the western sets, but I may have to pick up a few of those. Are they expensive graded? Did you buy raw and grade, or did you buy them graded? Would you start a new thread and tell us about them? I believe with the cards and comments I've seen here, we could get a nice non sports card forum going. Thanks for sharing.
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#2018369 - 12/22/13 11:20 AM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: Bammer]
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Wow cool thread, some amazing cards! I love all the variety. Here are the only ones I have, might have to look into adding some non sport in 2014 -



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#2018370 - 12/22/13 04:34 PM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: SMtJoy]
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Only one I can think of off the top of my head in my collection.



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#2018371 - 12/22/13 04:38 PM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: bbo]
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Speaking of outer space, here's one more moonshot.

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#2018374 - 12/23/13 07:32 AM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: bbo]
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Wow!

This Thread has really taken off.

The Allen & Ginters seem to always have great subject matters and have covered many different subjects.

Ron

Those are just friggin beautiful cards you posted!

That Great Americans set is just eye popping with the bold bright colors and the spectacular graphics on them.

How many cards in the Great Americans set?

Surprisingly the 1934 Garbaty set is not to difficult to find cards for as the were highly prized and collected as well as preserved by many collectors at the time.

I was wondering how difficult the Great Americans set is to obtain those kind of high grade examples, as well as the cost basis?

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#2018376 - 12/23/13 09:35 AM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: BigRedOne]
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The set includes 50 cards but there is one variation, Beecher facing right and left. The facing left card is pretty rare, and I have not seen another in any registry sets either PSA or SGC.

High grade, as expected, are hard to find. My set ranges SGC 40 and up. I am able to upgrade maybe one or two cards a year. Like most non-sport cards, values are way cheaper than baseball. High grade examples will sell for a few hundred with Lincoln, Washington and a few other "stars" selling two to three times more. SGC 50 and lower cards are still pretty cheap, and show up on ebay occasionally.

High grade PSA examples usually will not cross to SGC because these cards often have minor paper loss that will not get by SGC.

The card backs have only a checklist, with no biographical info, but if you like history, you can enjoy researching the ones you do not know.

I have included a link to my set.





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#2018377 - 12/23/13 09:39 AM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: rgold]
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Ron those are Classics!!! Now If we could get men like that back in office it would be a good day!

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#2018383 - 12/23/13 05:35 PM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: Blackie]
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That Great American set is sweet. The gold sure stands out doesn't it?

I'm posting a photo of a card from my favorite set: 1956 Quaker Pack-O-Ten Braves Of Indian Nations. I know this set isn't as old as the others we've seen here, but the color on these and the pictures themselves are fantastic. Hope you like it.


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#2018384 - 12/23/13 05:43 PM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: Bammer]
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LOVE THAT CARD!!!!! I Cherokee myself so love those cards.
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#2018386 - 12/23/13 06:32 PM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: Blackie]
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Glad you like them. I have 2 graded by PSA that I'm going to cross over in my next submission. Hope to send it in after X-mas.
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#2018387 - 12/23/13 06:34 PM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: Bammer]
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You guys are going to make me start one of these non-sports sets after I finish Ruthies set...
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#2018388 - 12/23/13 07:09 PM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: Blackie]
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There are a lot of choices Blackie. And they're pretty cards.
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#2018390 - 12/23/13 08:00 PM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: Bammer]
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Yes there are.......I always like the Horrors of War set myself
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#2018394 - 12/24/13 05:23 AM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: bbo]
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Some fantastic cards in this thread!

(and then an unnecessary one to ruin it -- delete that please)
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#2018400 - 12/24/13 01:00 PM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: estang]
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Here is another favorite set (or at least part of the set. The set is the 1955 Rails and Sails. I'm a railroad buff besides being a collector. This is one of the rail cards of the set:


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#2018401 - 12/24/13 01:03 PM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: SMtJoy]
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hey SMtJoy, is that Davey Crockett the green back? I have some orange backs that don't have the letter after the card number, so I'm assuming this one is a green back.
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#2018413 - 12/26/13 12:48 PM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: Bammer]
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I have both sets of the Davy Crockett cards.
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#2018414 - 12/26/13 03:59 PM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: cammb]
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Ok, then the green backs have the letter after the number?? correct?
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#2018425 - 12/29/13 05:39 AM Re: first SGC submission is home to roost [Re: Bammer]
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