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#215821 - 09/16/03 09:49 AM 1975 Topps
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Hi, I am new to the cards forum. I have some 1975 Topps Baseball cards (the mini cards, they are smaller than the regular size cards). Does SGC grade these and is it worth it if they are not NM, probably 88 or lower. What range of cards does SGC grade, mini to oversize?
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#215822 - 09/16/03 10:10 AM Re: 1975 Topps [Re: wolverine]
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Wolverine...yes, SGC does grade the mini-sized and oversized cards. As far as whether or not you should submit these cards for grading, well that's more difficult to answer. From an investment standpoint, I would say no to any commons, unless you are trying to complete a graded set and want to enter it into a registry. The star cards, especially the brett and yount rookies, I would grade anything 6 or higher, but that's just my opinion, no really wrong or right answer I think.

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#215823 - 09/16/03 10:13 AM Re: 1975 Topps [Re: wolverine]
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Wolverine

Welcome to the boards! I can't speak for SGC's entire range of what they grade but as I also collect 75 Topps Mini's as well as 64 Topps Giants, the range is rather large. They also encapsulate cards much smaller than that 75 Topps Mini's as I have also graded 1963 Bazooka All Time Greats which are maybe 1/4 to 1/3 the size. The 64 Topps Giants measure about 5 inches tall and 3 inches wide.

As for whether or not there is value in getting them graded, since I'm not sure what your purpose is, I cannot say.

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#215824 - 09/16/03 10:42 AM Re: 1975 Topps [Re: wolverine]
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wolverine,

I would not grade any card that would grade nm+ (Sgc 86) or less except
for a few star cards such as Brett and Yount Rookie, Hank Aaron's
first and last card, Nolan Ryan, and maybe the Schmidt and Pete Rose
cards. That's about it. As far as near mint/mint+(Sgc 88 - Sgc 92), these
cards are nice but if you are looking for resale value for profits I'm not sure
if much exists outside of the star cards. I would do a small group and
then see how you make it in terms of sales. Also, you may want to do
a few if you are not familiar what to look for from a grading standpoint.
It takes a keen eye to sometimes distinguish between a Sgc 88 to Sgc 96.

One last comment, if you are selling the cards, I would not send
anything in from 1975 topps mini's that would not grade at least an
Sgc 84 (nm). You can save on grading fees if you sold as raw.

As far as additional sales info and opportunities maybe someone who
has sold these graded cards can help.

Welcome to the forum!

aconte
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#215825 - 09/16/03 03:21 PM Re: 1975 Topps [Re: aconte]
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Thanks. I don't collect cards much but I have these cards from I was a kid. I guess I don't really want to sell them but I thought they might look nice slabbed. The best ones I have are the Nolan Ryan and Hank Aaron (last one). I would guess the best grade is probably 86 to 88, kept them in a box and had no sleeves back then. Do you know the value in this grade off hand.

Another question, does SGC or other companies grade autographed cards ( is it considered a defect?) CGC has a service (signature series) where they certifiy the signature as authentic (witnessed by someone at CGC) and seal and grade the book.

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#215826 - 09/16/03 04:04 PM Re: 1975 Topps [Re: wolverine]
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SGC grades autographed cards that come from the manufacturer as autographed. I sent in a Champ Bailey certified auto and it came back SGC 96 or 9 Mint grade. I'm not aware that they authenticate autographs on a card and grade when it doesn't come from manufacturer. I've noticed PSA advertises with what looks to be a 1965 NM or better conditioned Mickey Mantle with his autograph at VG/EX PSA 4.

1975 Minis aren't listed in my Beckett Vintage price guide. However, the regular size in NM ungraded for Ryan is $50 and Aaaron at $30. Graded NM/MT 88 or 8 is $150 HB for Ryan and $100 for Aaron. The Standard Baseball Catalog states that Minis command a 2x premium over regular issue but it has been "shrinking in recent years".

At SGC or www.sgccard.com is a free pricing guide for graded cards, but doesn't show mini values. Regular size SGC pricing states

500 Nolan Ryan (Hall of Fame) 30 50 70 125 200 425
660 Hank Aaron (Hall of Fame) 20 35 45 75 210 500

Above pricing is for 80, 84, 86, 88, 92, 96 grades

If you can provide a scan, perhaps someone can give you an estimate of what it would grade based upon centering, corners, etc...
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#215827 - 09/16/03 04:49 PM Re: 1975 Topps [Re: estang]
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Thanks. Well, it doesn't look like they are worth as much as I thought. I guess the true value/worth is the memory I had buying 10 packs for $1 and chewing the rock hard bubble gum. Having watch from the sidelines, the baseball card hobby has lost a lot of its young collectors and is not doing much to get new collectors. Kids collect Yuki-oh, pokeman, magic, etc.
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#215828 - 09/16/03 07:43 PM Re: 1975 Topps [Re: aconte]
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Hank Aaron's
first and last card,

aconte i believe hank aaron's first card is 54 topps and his last is 76 topps. I
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#215829 - 09/16/03 08:11 PM Aaron Rookie [Re: jackstraw]
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Could his Johnston Cookies card be considered his 1st card??!!



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#215830 - 01/30/04 12:06 AM Re: Aaron Rookie [Re: aconte]
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always been a fan of the 75. I remember seeing george brett or robin yount rack packs with them on top going for like $50, and to think considering what the psa10 george brett on ebay is at right now, that i waited. But putting money in that set for perfect 10's will lead to ruin. So will trying to find vending boxes for that year and untampered 1986 fleer basket ball wax packs too. Got several big players from that year untouched and into hard protective holders. Best chance is to shoot for a 9 or someting. Anyone know what 1988 fleer ff cal ripkin jr 10's go for these days or are they worthless. I got the real deal with the profanity showing and everything . I was coolest kid on block for like 1 week till another kid got a 1987 fleer baseball tin factory set. Man, what happened to those days. You could actually hold the cards then. I guess thats why i switched to collecting comics, atleast you can read/hold em and actually get a graded book you can sell. Cards, you are lucky if you get the one you want now in the pack. Forget about vending boxes for the expensive foil type cards. Any of you guys disapointed with where the baseball card market going or went after early/mid 90's? opinions?
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