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#221039 - 09/24/03 12:13 PM 1939 Playball Set
njdolphins
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Dear All

I've added a new set to the registry; the 1939 Playball set. If anyone likes pre WW2 Black and White cards, these are pretty nice. Very simple design but oh so classic. Enjoy! See if you can spot the cards that present MUCH higher than their grade

Ron's 1939 PlayBall Set

Regards

Ron
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#221040 - 09/24/03 12:21 PM Re: 1939 Playball Set [Re: njdolphins]
srs1a
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Ron, well for starters...how about 32, 45, and 111? Boy, they are sure sharp looking cards for the grades -- I guess they must have tiny surface wrinkles somewhere??? Scott
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#221041 - 09/24/03 12:33 PM Re: 1939 Playball Set [Re: srs1a]
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Scott

Sharp eyes my friend. 32 and 45 are NM or better cards with stains on the back. As the staining was pretty heavy, I was able to get the cards raw for next to nothing but they present in AWESOME fashion. I've got a few others with less staining that graded as 60's and 70's. Lefty Gomez also presents much higher but you can see the indentation of writing in the bottom border that was erased as some point in life.


111..............ah 111............... special story that card 111. I hate to admit this but 111 was a PSA 8 card which I looked none too closely at. As much as we like to rag on PSA, I have come to trust PSA 8 cards as being at least SGC 84 and sometimes as high as SGC 96. My "process" when just looking to add to my collection was not to closely examine PSA 8 & 9 cards. Whatever is crosses over to it crosses over to. If you look REALLY closely at the scan you can see a wrinkle that is about an inch to the right of the letter in his cap. When you stare at the card straight, it blends in and can't be seen. Wiggle it back and forth and like magic you can see the truth. Tough lesson learned for me but fortunately it's not a star card and didn't cost too much.

Thanks for looking

Ron
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#221042 - 09/24/03 12:57 PM Re: 1939 Playball Set [Re: njdolphins]
srs1a
Old, dense-headed hammers are cool. Best nail pounders.


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Ron, your story on #111 is very interesting.

I wonder if pressing cards is more prevelent that we all know. In the past, I've seen discussions on how "pressed wrinkles" have gotten past SGC graders and were then caught when crossing to PSA. Apparently, pressing is not a permanent fix and is reversed by time and (I assume) humidity. I know that zardoz speculated that, in all likelyhood, these things were probably also getting by PSA graders, but hadn't been observed due to the lack of x-overs going that way. .

Just last night, I was looking through some of my PSA cards and to my suprise, a PSA-8 '72 Aaron card of mine had a nasty surface indentation in it. It is crazy, you can see it from both sides...and I'm pretty darn sure it wasn't there when I bought the card 5+ years ago. I'd bet you any money Mr. Aaron was a press job...and I'd wager the same for yours.



I'll see if I can scan the Aaron card so that this shows -- if so, I'll post the scan.

Scott

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#221043 - 09/24/03 02:14 PM Re: 1939 Playball Set [Re: njdolphins]
aconte
Bid more or post more... tough one...


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Nice cards Ron. They display nicely for sure.

aconte
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