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#235170 - 10/12/03 04:04 PM set update 1976 and 78 topps
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ok i am following the trend here. i have started 2 sgc sets. one being the 76 it was the first year i collected baseball cards. i can still remember getting the hank aaron and looking at it for hours. the other is a 78 set. i think the 78's look so much better in sgc holders.
i spent the afternoon getting a small submission ready to go to sgc all 76's. there is 44 in all and its going to cost me about 300 bucs. i was kind of hoping for a special but haven't seen any word of one. i did buy this card to add to my set. i don't think i will cross over any psa 9 cards yet but you never know. i will try to find some high end 8's to cross though . if anybody has some nice raw or well centered 92's/96's from the 2 sets lmk.

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#235171 - 10/12/03 07:27 PM Re: set update 1976 and 78 topps [Re: jackstraw]
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Bouffard...you may already be aware but SGC does offer bulk rate submission as low as 5.00 per card. You can always let them know that your're aiming for an SGC graded 76/78 set and I would think they would cut you some slack.

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#235172 - 10/14/03 07:41 AM Re: set update 1976 and 78 topps [Re: grilloj39]
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just picked up the sgc 96 catfish from redsox jeff. a tough hofer card that doesn't come up for sale in mint condition often.
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#235173 - 10/14/03 07:59 AM Re: set update 1976 and 78 topps [Re: jackstraw]
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Bouffard

I've got an SGC92 Mets Team card from that set. I've also got a 92 Seaver but I collect Seavers so I likely wouldn't part with that one. Any interest in the Mets Team card?

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#235174 - 10/14/03 09:00 AM Re: set update 1976 and 78 topps [Re: njdolphins]
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ron,
i would be interested in the mets team if its centered nicely.
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#235175 - 10/14/03 07:37 PM Re: set update 1976 and 78 topps [Re: jackstraw]
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I've sent you a PM in response.

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#235176 - 10/18/03 07:42 PM Re: set update 1976 and 78 topps [Re: njdolphins]
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does anybody know if blambro posts here? i would love to see a picture of the 75 carew he has registered. that is one tough card.
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#235177 - 10/18/03 07:55 PM Re: set update 1976 and 78 topps [Re: jackstraw]
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Blambro put his set into the SGC registry and posted a few times, but he keeps a low profile it seems....

Does anyone know the name of his set?
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#235178 - 10/18/03 07:58 PM Re: set update 1976 and 78 topps [Re: vayank]
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Bouffard --

I have a 1978 Topps Roger Metzger (#697) sgc 96. It's yours for the asking, just PM me ....
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#235179 - 10/18/03 07:58 PM Re: set update 1976 and 78 topps [Re: vayank]
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matthew he has a few nice sets. all are named blambros check it out mostly 96's with the exception of 71.
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#235180 - 10/19/03 11:47 AM Re: set update 1976 and 78 topps [Re: jackstraw]
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Blambro has some incredible sets -- his '68 set is incredible...part of it registered here and part on the PSA registry....and not a card below 9/96. I have never seen him post here...or across the street. I just checled the user list and there is a blambro registered, but he/she has 0 posts.
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#235181 - 10/19/03 12:24 PM Re: set update 1976 and 78 topps [Re: srs1a]
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well i hope he/she reads this so their first post will be a picture of one tough card.
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#235182 - 10/19/03 02:08 PM 1975 Carew BVG 8.5 pic [Re: vayank]
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It's not a SGC 96, but pretty darn close to as good as you'll find of this card. It has sub-grades of 9 centering, 9.5 corners, 9.5 edges and 7.5 surface. I wish someone would explain to me what/why Beckett is giving such harsh surface grades. There is not one print mark on either side or any noticable scratches or indentations. I guess had it received a 9 for surface, I'd never be able to have afforded it.




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#235183 - 10/19/03 02:13 PM Re: 1975 Carew BVG 8.5 pic [Re: estang]
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#235184 - 10/19/03 02:20 PM Re: 1975 Carew BVG 8.5 pic [Re: estang]
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Estang,
that card has all the characteristics of a sheet-cut card which Beckett grades but PSA and SGC don't. Recently dealers have been buying uncut sheets of cards, especially from the topps vault auctions on ebay and cutting them up. PSA usually catches them and SGC doesn't grade them either I believe. Beckett of course will grade about anything, so they do. Classic characteristics of a recently sheet cut card are nice edges, corners and centering and a bad surface. This carew fits the bill perfectly.

If you don't mind recently cut cards vs those cut the year they were manufactured, then bid away. But most collectors seem to see these as illegitimate (sp?).

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#235185 - 10/19/03 05:27 PM Re: 1975 Carew BVG 8.5 pic [Re: dbj77]
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Estang,

I believe dbj77 is correct with his comments. I've heard time and time
again that cards graded that high in all three categories and low with
the surface grade have been known to be sheet cut. Your card looks
great but I bet it was cut from a sheet. Some would argue so what.
I'd prefer not to buy a card with these characteristics. 'Buttermarc'
is much more familiar with this and might be able to share his
expertise. I believe he's commented about this on the Psa boards.

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#235186 - 10/19/03 06:07 PM Re: 1975 Carew BVG 8.5 pic [Re: aconte]
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Aconte...although the sub-grades should be warning signs of a sheet-cut card, it is not necessarily the case each and every time. A microscope and the ability to view the card in person is probably the only way to get a true indication. What would be of a great help is policy. As long as BVG is going to grade cut-sheet cards, I will not buy any BVG card that I think may be in this category.

If you also consider that the 75s were condition-sensitive as far as centering is concerned and this card seems to be perfectly centered...yes it is most-likely a sheet-cut card.
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#235187 - 10/19/03 06:19 PM Re: 1975 Carew BVG 8.5 pic [Re: grilloj39]
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It is interesting to hear that there's a chance my card could be cut from a sheet, based upon some reputation that BGS and PSA allow this. I have to say that it doesn't bother me as I know I won't be selling it and it has fantastic eye appeal.

I'm fairly certain that I purchased the card from ebay seller 'thekardking', who sells many top grade Beckett graded cards.

I would like to better understand how a microscope or loupe would be able to verify that it was cut from a sheet. I'd also like to know how people are doing this. Is it with an industry machine or a simple paper cutter that you would often see in an office building or school. I'd also like to know what exactly SGC would do if it was sent to them. Would they simply not grade it and what excuse would they give? Would it say it was trimmed?

I recall seeing a BVG 1976 Topps Carew on ebay in 9.5 condition. It was 9.5 in all aspects and it went for over $300. I believe I put in a $275 bid and in hindsight I'm glad I didn't win, because: a) that's more money than I'd want to pay for the card b) the gold label would clash against all my 8.5 and 9.0 BVG labels.

Anyway, Vikings are 6-0!!!


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#235188 - 10/20/03 06:42 PM Re: 1975 Carew BVG 8.5 pic [Re: estang]
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erik,
the best signs of a sheet cut card is that the borders will not have little tiny fibers almost looks like hair on the borders. you usually can see this under 10x magnification. i also love the phantom surface grade which i usually stay away from!
i have 79 o pee chee gerry cheevers that is sheet cut bgs 9 and i love it. if you love it then thats all that matters.
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#235189 - 10/23/03 09:03 PM Re: 1975 Carew BVG 8.5 pic [Re: jackstraw]
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i am trying to get some serenity so i am looking at that 75 carew card and man i tell i love that card. this would be the year before i started collecting and can remember going to kmart and getting the left overs. i do enjoy the set but probably would never commit to collecting it. a few other cards that float my boat is the brook robinson, the aaron HL and the fisk with the hotel in the back ground. got to love them spring training photos. i know there are a ton of tough commons probably too many to list and my hobby dollars are going to be real thin till christmas is over there is one card i would like to get in an sgc 96 before christmas is a 76 brooks robinson? i want one that doesn't have the diamond cut that i see so often on this card sort of like the schmidt card if you ever find a schmidt with four true borders and is not diamond cut buy it!
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#235190 - 10/24/03 08:18 AM Re: 1975 Carew BVG 8.5 pic [Re: estang]
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Hi estang --

Could you expand on your statement about cards cut from sheets? I'm not sure I understand the reluctance to purchase these cards. My knee-jerk reaction is that, as long as the card is real and cut to the exact dimensions of those coming from the factory, I would consider it an unaltered, valid card. But I'd like to hear other opinions on this.

Note that, since it grades Post cereal cards, by definition SGC grades sheet cut cards as well ... (although, this may be distorting your central point a little since that is the only way those cards made it to the market place).

I am also aware of some VERY highly graded Ramleys (96s and a 98 or two) that were cut from sheets and graded by SGC in the "old label" days.

Finally, here is an example of a PSA-graded, sheet-cut card that is currently being auctioned on Ebay ...

Nolan Ryan PSA 10 - sheet cut card


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#235191 - 10/24/03 08:29 AM Re: 1975 Carew BVG 8.5 pic [Re: deadlyembrace]
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deadlyembrace,
i hope you don't mind me responding. i believe the reason collectors veiw a card like the carew as an altered card is that the cutting techniques back in 75 were far worse than today. if you ever look at an opc card from the 70's it looks like it was cut with a chain saw not a laser like today. it's a debate that will never end and i guess it goes under the topic of if your happy then thats all that matters.

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#235192 - 10/24/03 08:55 AM Re: 1975 Carew BVG 8.5 pic [Re: jackstraw]
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DE, I agree with Bouffard's sentiments. I think there are certain cards where it is important -- Gretzky's OPC Rookie for one. High grade ones in Beckett holders have very smooth edges -- very rarely do you see one in another holder that looks like these. It's an important card and, as Bouffard says, many OPC's look like they got hit with a weed whacker...so people care.
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#235193 - 10/24/03 09:14 AM Re: 1975 Carew BVG 8.5 pic [Re: srs1a]
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Bouffard and srs1a --

So ... if a very highly graded Gretzky's OPC Rookie in a Beckett holder (for which a sheet cut job is suspected/probable) were submitted to SGC as a cross-over candidate, would SGC reject it or cross it over?

And if they DO cross it over, should they have?

Is it acceptible on a card-by-card basis where important cards such as the Gretzky's Rookie should be kept "pure"?

Just curious ...



I guess I'm confused by the entire topic and the various grading companies' approach to it. If I could find a 1962 Topps #1 Roger Maris SGC 96 that I KNEW was cut from a 1962 sheet ... I don't think I'd hesitate in trying to acquire it.



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#235194 - 10/24/03 09:18 AM Re: 1975 Carew BVG 8.5 pic [Re: deadlyembrace]
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they would reveiw it and probably reject. i know they are aware of the sheet cut card and have a process to determine whether it is cut from a sheet in 2003 or factory cut in 1979.

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#235195 - 10/24/03 09:46 AM Re: 1975 Carew BVG 8.5 pic [Re: jackstraw]
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Mr. 62,

I don't have any issues that it is possible it could be cut from a sheet. I posted it in reference to someone mentioning an example of the 75 Carew in SGC 96 on the Set Registry (no scan there).

I have a run of Topps Carew BVG 8.5 from 1968, 1970, 1972, 1975 and 1978. I have a BVG 9.0 from 1977. I just checked the sub-grading and examined the cards under a bright light. After doing so, the 75 Carew does have flawless edges and corners (once again the centering is 9.0 but the edges/corners are 9.5).

Interestly the card that comes closest to perfecet edges and centering is the 78 Carew, which was purchased from the same ebay seller. It grades out at centering 9.5, corners 9.0, edges 9.5 and 8.0 surface. I do see an imperfection on the surface with some noticable but very light indentations on the back surface.

I cannot say definitely that they were cut from a sheet, but it doesn't really matter to me.

If someone tells me how using a 10x loupe I can confirm for sure, I'll go and purchase one (I've been thinking of doing that anyway).

I'd still like to understand from someone what type of machinery is being used and if it is known that there is a single company doing this on behalf of a group of dealers.

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#235196 - 10/24/03 10:02 AM Re: 1975 Carew BVG 8.5 pic [Re: deadlyembrace]
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DE

I think there is an enormous difference between an original pack distributed card and a recently sheet cut of any vintage sports issue. Owning a 1962 Roger Maris SGC 96 that has remained undamaged for nearly 42 years should not be considered the equal of a 2003 cut card from an original 1962 sheet.

I don't know the extent of sheet cut vintage cards - but if it becomes a growing segment in the hobby, I hope the grading companies would indicate a sheet cut on the label (on the line that SGC uses for Rookie or High #). I personally would either not purchase a sheet cut card or bid a significantly reduced amount compared to what I would consider an original issued card.

Just my opinion.

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#235197 - 10/24/03 11:11 AM Re: 1975 Schmidt [Re: stanthemanfan]
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I saw a BVG 75 Schmidt that was graded 8.5 or 9.5 on ebay a few
months ago. It was perfect looking. Centering was awesome and
it looked great. I thought about bidding but did not. Is there a chance
a card like this was sheet cut? The edges looked razor. I never
saw that on the 75 Schmidt.

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#235198 - 10/24/03 06:00 PM Re: 1975 Schmidt [Re: aconte]
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I think the reluctance to recognize sheet cut cards is due to the fact that they underwent a non factory alteration. It's not much different from taking an oversized card and trimming it down to size. I personally would not want sheet cut cards in my collection.

Boufford - I too like the 1976 set. It was also the first set I collected as a kid. I remember getting my first ATAS (Gehrig) and wondering why there was an old card in my pack. Perhaps someday I'll build a graded set from that year but my focus now is on building sets from the 60s.

Good luck with your venture.

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#235199 - 10/24/03 08:32 PM Re: 1975 Schmidt [Re: gemint]
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gemint,
nice to hear from you over here. i regularly look at your 69 set(i'm guessing that is the year of your birth because its mine?)(i also enjoy the pictures and notes i wish sgc would add that feature). someday i will start that set once the mike shannons of the world come out of gaspipes vending stash he also has about 40,000 76's but it seems he has taking a liken to the horses and not so much cards lately.
i can for some reason remember the micky cochrene? i remember saying to myself that guy must be old.two more cards that remind me of a day gone bye is the willie horton and the aaron rb.
i have added the watson and hunter which is probably the third hardest hof'er in mint grade(mo). i would consider the brett the hardest next being the winfield and if rose ever makes it i would put that in the top 4 ahead of the hunter. also on that list of tough hof'ers is that rotten lefty grove for some reason it just doesn't grade that high ?and from the list of future hof'ers is mr torre forget about it. i have never seen a nice copy of that card.
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#235200 - 10/24/03 09:06 PM Re: 1975 Schmidt [Re: jackstraw]
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i'm not sure what i did wrong but this will be try two

didn't work?



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#235201 - 10/24/03 09:22 PM Re: 1975 Schmidt [Re: jackstraw]
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Bouffard,

The UBBCode that this forum uses is somewhat limiting. Images are only recognized and displayed properly if they contain one of the standard file extensions such as .jpg, .gif, .bmp, etc.

Try adding the appropriate extension (right click on image and choose properties to determine) or upload it (and save it with the proper extension) to an ftp or image hosting site.

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#235202 - 10/24/03 09:37 PM Re: 1975 Schmidt [Re: MW1]
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who do you think i am bill gates?i'm lucky a 1/4 of the time just being able to communicate with anybody let alone remember all of that any interested parties will be able to view it in my set,sorry for the inconvience.
wait i might of understood stand by.

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#235203 - 10/24/03 09:45 PM Re: 1975 Schmidt [Re: MW1]
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#235204 - 10/24/03 09:47 PM Re: 1975 Schmidt [Re: jackstraw]
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mw see what you can do with that i still can't get it in the message box?
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#235205 - 10/24/03 09:54 PM Re: 1975 Schmidt [Re: jackstraw]
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Bouffard,

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#235206 - 10/25/03 12:13 AM Re: 1975 Schmidt [Re: MW1]
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Actually 1967 is my birth year. I guess I was a late bloomer as far as collecting goes. I started collecting the '69s at an early age and then kept building and upgrading the set over the years. Completing the '67 set is becoming a high priority.

Have you secured the '76 Brett yet? That's always been a tough card. My favorite has always been the Yeager for some reason. I also like all the Pirates cards since they are my favorite team. I used to rip open packs hoping to get a Frank Tavares or Richie Zisk. Ah the memories.

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#235207 - 10/25/03 05:40 AM Re: 1975 Schmidt [Re: gemint]
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gemint,
believe it or not the only real nice mint 9 brett that i have ever seen was from wiwag about 4 years ago. i think it went for about grand or so. i was watching with hopes that nobody would have noticed it but i was wrong. i hate other collectors .
the hardest card in the set is a pirate, the stennett record breaker is non existent in mint grade. the kirkpatrick and robertson are also in the tough catagory.
my neighbor needed the chambliss,frisella and strom to complete his set so he and i ripped pack after pack to try and find those three and guess who got the doubles?
the willie horton will always be my favorite followed by the yaz. the yaz has to be the prettiest card out there.
talk to you later
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#235208 - 10/25/03 01:22 PM Re: 1975 Schmidt [Re: aconte]
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aconte,
the first thing that would scare me about the schmidt that you are talking about is
the centering. i am sure marc would attest that card is never centered perfectly.same goes for the carew never perfectly centered.
one thing that puzzles me about the 76 schmidt bgs 9.5 that has been on ebay a couple of times. the centering looks to be the usual short borders and slight diamond cut. i think the card is either legit, over graded or a lousy cut job. last decade and browntoni had the nicest 76 schmidts i have seen via an ebay scan.

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#235209 - 10/26/03 06:14 PM Few thoughts re: Schmidt cards [Re: aconte]
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Tony:

Please always feel free to ask me Schmidt questions -- I am always happy to oblige. First off -- on the 1975 Schmidt card, I can tell you that I am the proud owner of a 1975 OPC sheet-cut blank back BVG 9 card. I say proud only because I purchased the card knowing precisely what it was. It provides an exemplar by which I can judge other examples, even if the front of the card is not "realistic" in terms of what would have been achieved by the technology in the day.

As for 1976 Schmidts -- I've got a slew of them. Had I all them here with me in Cambridge, I could probably provide you a good side-by-side analysis. Never the less, I do not. I did eventually come into ownership of the BVG 9.5 example of the card, which does seem to be somewhat different than other contemporanious sheet-cut Schmidt cards. I also own a number of PSA 9 and SGC 96 Schmidt cards from 1976, with varying "defects" in each. Typically, centering and/or print dots tend to be the downfall of that card. Rather than print dots, more of a print snow, which is very common in the issue overall. The Schmidt picture, with much dark background, lends itself to this defect.

Finally, my FAVORITE 1976 Schmidt card is actually a 1976 Topps Mike Schmidt card graded SGC 50. The exceedingly intriguing factor is that it is clearly a Topps card, not an O-Pee-Chee example, but it is printed on white card stock. As to the source of this particular anomoly, I know not. It appears to have been handled and in circulation (hence the low grade), but it provide a bright and stunning contrast to my other Schmidt cards from that year.

Cheers,
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#235210 - 10/27/03 06:35 AM Re: Few thoughts re: Schmidt cards [Re: buttermarc]
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marc,
if you are going to the schriners show this coming weekend lmk. i would like to meet you. i have been to the show a few times and it's always a pretty good show.
if your in cambridge it's probably 25 mins up route 95/128 north.i haven't decided definatly if i am going but if i do i will probably try to make it for saturday late morning or early afternoon.

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#235211 - 10/27/03 09:08 AM Re: Few thoughts re: Schmidt cards [Re: jackstraw]
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John:

Unfortunately, I have committments out of town this coming weekend, so I will be unable to attend the show. That being said -- if you are ever in the area, I would be more than happy to meet you. Just e-mail me, and I will send you my phone number.

The show seems like a good one, and I will unfortunately be missing out on some collector friends and some dealer friends who will be in town for the weekend. If you do go, I hope that all works out and that you are able to find some nice cards.

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#235212 - 10/27/03 10:41 PM Re: Few thoughts re: Schmidt cards [Re: jackstraw]
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marc,
if you are going to the schriners show this coming weekend lmk. i would like to meet you. i have been to the show a few times and it's always a pretty good show.
if your in cambridge it's probably 25 mins up route 95/128 north.i haven't decided definatly if i am going but if i do i will probably try to make it for saturday late morning or early afternoon.

john




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#235213 - 10/28/03 04:55 AM Re: Few thoughts re: Schmidt cards [Re: tegelaar]
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i am still up in the air as of if i'm going or not? i will probably wait till friday to make my decision but i will let you know. if i do go we can meet somewhere for a coffee.

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#235214 - 10/28/03 07:02 PM Re: Few thoughts re: Schmidt cards [Re: jackstraw]
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well i picked up the 78 nettles an sgc 96 but i got BLAMBROED on that one

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#235215 - 10/28/03 07:53 PM Re: Few thoughts re: Schmidt cards [Re: jackstraw]
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bouffard --

Where's your committment? where's your desire? Knocked out at $14??? Just kidding
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#235216 - 10/28/03 08:23 PM The 76 card [Re: vayank]
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Bouffard,

I was bored tonight and almost bid on that card. I saw you were on it so I
passed. I was going to go to $15 just an fyi. I thought it would look nice
in my odd ball stuff.

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#235217 - 10/29/03 07:33 PM Re: The 76 card [Re: aconte]
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vayank
i have a sneaky feeling there might be 65 sgc 96's hitting ebay real soon. so i didn't want to kill the wallet just yet!

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i have contacted the seller and told him to block you and blambro from bidding

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#235218 - 11/02/03 07:18 PM Sweet Lou ! [Re: jackstraw]
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just picked up this Lou Pinella to add to my sgc 96 1978 set.
good thing blambro is not working on this one.
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#235219 - 12/07/03 06:11 AM Re: recent additions [Re: jackstraw]
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i just added the pinella, concepcion and randolph in 96's. i also picked up the perry, batting leader,era leader and sb ldr from dh cards. i was outbid on the garvey, so ldr and the lyle rb. i really wanted that one bid 25 and was sniped.
my total now is 31 96's and a few more i see in sight. if anybody has any of the record breakers, league ldrs, teams or mgr cards in 96 and would like to sell and or trade lmk.
i have been pretty much psa on the 76's for now.
i also have taken a liken to the 81 set. sgc doesn't have one on the registry. how do you get them to add a set?
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#235220 - 12/16/03 06:19 PM Metzger [Re: jackstraw]
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JB -- The Metzger is on the way to you! Happy holidays...

P.S. My wife is from South Windsor, and I lived there myself for a year and a half.


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#235221 - 12/16/03 08:03 PM Re: Metzger [Re: vayank]
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wow! i was just at gerber tonight working. small world. thanks again. by the way i grew up in vernon and went to east catholic so i know a few people from s windsor.

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#235222 - 12/16/03 08:05 PM Re: Metzger [Re: jackstraw]
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JB -- This is scary. I lived on Long Hill road. One minute from Gerber on Chapel Hill Road.
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#235223 - 12/16/03 08:15 PM Re: Metzger [Re: vayank]
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i have golfed east hartford many times and almost joined a mens league there. i also was good friends with the people who lived in the house on the corner of long hill and ellington ave sort of across to the left from the 7 11. ever go to macs cards ?
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#235224 - 12/16/03 08:23 PM Re: Metzger [Re: jackstraw]
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Ellington and Long Hill? ...I lived 30 seconds from there. Between Long Hill and Ellington. Is the house you refer to between the little sliver between Pleasant Valley and Ellington, or on the corner of Long Hill and Pleasant Valley? Just curious...

Yes, Mac's, I sold a boat load on 1974 commons to them/him...
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#235225 - 12/18/03 07:10 AM Re: The House [Re: vayank]
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matthew,
the house i refer to is the one on the next corner from pleasant valley. i can't remember the name but the address is ellington rd?

i just picked up 7 sgc 96's for my 76 set from crashtest alex. coleman father and son,veryzer,harmon,joe niekro,spikes,todd and castro. i also should be adding a few new cards to my 78 set and have really taken a liken to 81 topps football. i wish i had grabbed that alan page 98 last week.i also love 81 topps baseball, its a cheap set but with last weeks additions i have all the leader cards in sgc 96, except #1 which is a psa 9 so i probably should cross it sooner or later.
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#235226 - 12/19/03 07:22 PM Re: Metzger [Re: vayank]
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added the metzger today. thank you matthew. if you ever come back to visit lmk.
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#235227 - 12/19/03 07:57 PM Re: Metzger [Re: jackstraw]
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Glad to help! My wife and I will be up to S. Windor sometime in the first three months in '04 to visit her family. Maybe we'll all hit the AAA diner in East Hartford.
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#235228 - 12/20/03 06:36 PM Re: Latest Additions [Re: jackstraw]
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So far so good on the the ebay front. won 4 78 sgc 96's doyle alexander "the great",steve braun "e paper towels",craig reynolds "wrap" and rowland"running 4" office. that brings me to 36 96's for the set. i might update in 35 minutes so check back
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#235229 - 12/20/03 07:10 PM Re: Latest Additions [Re: jackstraw]
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Jackson RB (one of my personal favorites),lynn and luzinski!!!!

thank you dhcards
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#235230 - 12/21/03 05:30 AM Re: Latest Additions [Re: jackstraw]
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I thought about bidding on the Luzinski but saw you bid so passed.
Also, I really don't want to start anything new with so many other
things I'm working on. No $$$.

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#235231 - 12/22/03 04:15 PM I too tracked the Luzinski, but decided to back off... [Re: aconte]
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same with the Garvey card. There's a SGC 92 out there for cheap, but the centering isn't great, about 70/30.

If anyone runs across 78 Topps All-Stars in SGC 92 or 96 or the following, send me a note:

Lyman Bostock
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#235232 - 12/22/03 06:09 PM Re: I too tracked the Luzinski, but decided to back off... [Re: estang]
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thanks guys. i thought for sure i would got outbid on one of those three! but happy i didn't. happy holidays!

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#235233 - 12/22/03 08:01 PM Re: I too tracked the Luzinski, but decided to back off... [Re: jackstraw]
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hey bouffard, just wanted to let you know your 4 78 topps went out today and thanks for the quick payment. The garvey is cheap take another look
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#235234 - 12/23/03 04:47 PM Re:sgc 96/98 only [Re: remo]
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remo, thanks for the cards. i am only putting this set togather in 96 form and maybe a 98 or 2 if they ever come available! i would be interested in any 96 that you have that i need.
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#235235 - 01/01/04 11:23 AM Re:sgc 96/98 only [Re: jackstraw]
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no deal on the 60 dollar offer on the 7 78 sgc 96's on ebay. i figure thats about 8 bucks a card and pretty much the going price for common/semi star. the only card i might think about grabbing is the burroughs. he wants 12.00 each. his response was that he thinks sgc has a good value and if they don't sell he will put them back in his closet.
still have not gotten the cards from remo yet
sent in 7 psa 9's that i had. those are the only ones i have so i sent them in to try to cross? don baylor,randy jones,red sox,rangers,braves and blue jays. wish me luck
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#235236 - 01/01/04 12:16 PM Re:sgc 96/98 only [Re: jackstraw]
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no deal on the 60 dollar offer on the 7 78 sgc 96's on ebay. i figure thats about 8 bucks a card and pretty much the going price for common/semi star. the only card i might think about grabbing is the burroughs. he wants 12.00 each. his response was that he thinks sgc has a good value and if they don't sell he will put them back in his closet.




B> I'd want the cards too, but at least he is saying no for the right reason. You have to give the guy credit for putting a solid value on SGC cards, and sticking to it!

You offered about $8.50 a card; he is asking $12. I suggest going back at $10 a slab, saying any or all of the 7 at the price.
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#235237 - 01/01/04 04:53 PM Re:I must be crazy? [Re: vayank]
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You have to give the guy credit for putting a solid value on SGC cards, and sticking to it!


Vayank:
do honestly think there is value in 78 topps commons? i sure don't. i just think they look nice in sgc holders!i will try to pick and choose my poisen when at all possible but to put a 30 cent card in a 6.00 holder and pay 10.00 +shipping is probably not sound i love cards and the 3 or 4 sets that i collect are for sentimental reasons. i will make a fair offer and if they choose not to do it then oh well back to the closet> i would be willing to bet that i am the only person in this world that is collecting sgc 96 78 commons? psa 9's can be had for 6 to 8 bucks so 8.50 is a fair offer. you would have to go back a few years to find commons that are worth grading out and even those you better make sure they are low pops.i would say any pre 60 commons are worth grading.i don't know much about the 60's and maybe 70,71 and 72 but after that i would say it's a [!@#%^&^] shoot!
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#235238 - 01/01/04 05:46 PM Re:I must be crazy? [Re: jackstraw]
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I agree with Bouffard...$10 is an unrealistic expectation for a mint '78 common. I think $8+ is more than generous. Oh well, back into the closet they go.
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#235239 - 01/02/04 01:56 PM Re:I must be crazy? [Re: srs1a]
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I would have to disagree here. I think if you could agree to a deal for $10, you should do it. I stress that would include shipping.

First, I do think the cards have value and I applaud the seller -- though he should negotiate a price.

Let's break down this potential deal:

You offer $8.50 x 7 = $60 (rounding up).
He offers or would accept $10 X 7 = $70.

The first $60 is not an issue. We've already crossed the river about "overpaying" to have a $.30 card with a $6 slab.

You have to throw an extra $10 on the table for get the cards. If you do and he accepts, you not only get 7 sharp cards. You support an obviously committed SGC dealer. You encourage him or her in a material way to sumbit more cards to SGC. You'll probably get first crack at future cards he wants to move or is having trouble moving.

In short you are suporting the SGC market. And for what, an extra $10 on the $60. Sounds like a bargain. Win/Win.

Just my $.02.

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#235240 - 01/02/04 02:05 PM Re:I must be crazy? [Re: vayank]
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Hmmmmmmmmm...........this coming from the self professed cheap !@#(*@#$??

BTW, I agree with Matt's position on this issue

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#235241 - 01/02/04 04:08 PM Re:I must be crazy? [Re: vayank]
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matt,
you make sense but he wants 12.00 each and shipping. he has listed the cards 2x already so he has an extra buck into each? i would have atleast made a counter offer? he didn't? yes i probably would have taken them if he said 10 delivered that would have taken me to the 70 mark and i wouldn't have had a problem with that. oh well maybe he will counter after the auction?

got the cards from remo today, very nice
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#235242 - 01/02/04 04:14 PM Re:I must be crazy? [Re: jackstraw]
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JB > I would make the offer after the auction close at $10 per unsold slab. If he says no, more power to him, but you have done all you could.

What did you get from Remo?
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#235243 - 01/02/04 04:32 PM Re:I must be crazy? [Re: vayank]
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VY,
picked up 146 doyle alexander(sweet),199 craig reynolds,422 steve braun(profile head shot, i for some reason love the profile head shots in this set?)and 632 roland office (real nice card sort of a straight on head shot but looking up at the sky).

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#235244 - 01/02/04 04:44 PM Re:What do we have here? [Re: jackstraw]
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oh yeah cancel that 10 per slab because matts friend donhutson has one i might be interested in of course my old pal is going to make this hard sort of like the 78 parker

SGC 98 Tavares
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#235245 - 01/07/04 05:25 PM Re:out of the closet [Re: jackstraw]
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looks like i may have stirred up a new REGISTRY participant?pay close attention to his set name well maybe we can get another message board member also?
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#235246 - 01/10/04 11:21 AM Re:The waiting game [Re: jackstraw]
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Well it's a wait and see with the cross-overs. the estimated ship date is the 20th but i am hoping to get them back sooner.
i did buy a 78 brooks robinson rb (PSA 9). i was hoping to cross over to a sgc 96 but it won't! i think i am a pretty good judge of what will cross and what won't. i just think the card has way too many print problems. the card is smack dab centered and was the reason i bought it but the print you just can't see from the scan and god forbid that the seller would disclose this when selling a junk 9!psa is pumping the latest special out faster than mcdonalds is making quarter pounders. i personally would rather they took a bit more time to get the grades right.can psa really grade,encapsulate and ship cards this fast?i don't know, but if my last 2 purchases are any indication i will say no!
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#235247 - 01/10/04 12:29 PM Re:The waiting game [Re: jackstraw]
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JB >

Do you have any idea who registered that new set?
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#235248 - 01/10/04 01:06 PM Re:The waiting game [Re: vayank]
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matthew,
i know it's the guy that i tried to buy the 78's from on ebay. he has since added to the set, i have no idea if he is serious or not.
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#235249 - 01/11/04 10:40 AM Re:The waiting game [Re: jackstraw]
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just added to my 76 set the al homer lder sgc 96. at this pace i should complete my set in 3009 . any word if sgc is going to have a 70's special? anybody else take advantage of this if it happend? whats stopping people from sending their 70's west? i can submit my 50 cards through a friend for 250 bucs and it will cost me 300 to send to sgc ?
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#235250 - 01/11/04 11:30 AM Re:The waiting game [Re: jackstraw]
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I think it would be good for SGC to create a special for those on the Set Registry. I will tell you that when you submit to them directly, they give you a coupon for 1 free grade for every 10 you submit.

If I calculate the math correctly using Bouffard's exampel of 50 1970s cards, then:

5 free grades + 45x6 = $270 is still not as good as using someone's bulk rate of $5 a card or $250.

Anyone know how cheap the competition gets on their per card grading charges for commons or cards valued under a big $?

A special to those on the registry would be a good way to increase submissions and promote the registry; for both collectors and dealers. It is a win-win, assuming the break-even point analysis works for SGC. You'd have to understand their fixed per grade cost.






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#235251 - 01/11/04 12:28 PM grading specials [Re: estang]
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Agreed, the recent SGC specials have not been tremendously appealing. For the past several months they've been offering specials on their higher priced tiers...$10 per card and 5 day TAT or $18/card and next day service. Neither of these does anything for me.

I used to really like their "economy buster" and "5 yr anniversary" specials that were $7/card, 10 day TAT. I'd also like to see a commons special -- I've got a good number ready to go, but have been waiting for something better than 10% off of 6.50/card. I also think it would be a great idea to have a registry special for bone heads like me!

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#235252 - 01/11/04 12:54 PM Re: grading specials [Re: srs1a]
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i would like to see a registry special and maybe a cross-over special. 7 bucks seems a bit too much for me! i would send in about 25 to 30 cross-overs if the price was right and i didn't have to wait till july to get them back! i would love to send them 50 to 60 cards from 76 if the price was right!
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#235253 - 01/11/04 06:43 PM Re: grading specials [Re: jackstraw]
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I would like to see you guys get your 70's special. I don't think it is something
I would jump on but maybe I would grab a few Phils on ebay. I would also
like to see a better crossover special too or even a Ft. Washington show
special!

Maybe Sean will see this. And if he does I'd like to add GO BIRDS!!

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#235254 - 01/11/04 06:46 PM Re: grading specials [Re: aconte]
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I would think a loyal SGC customer trying to complete a registry set would just need to pick up the phone and call Sean Skeffington and ask for a special if they had 50+ cards to submit. You shouldn't have to wait for them to come out with a special before you submit. Just my opinion.
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#235255 - 01/11/04 07:13 PM Re: grading specials [Re: aconte]
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I'd also like to agree with aconte (whoever he may be ) and add....GO BIRDS!!!!!
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#235256 - 01/12/04 07:24 PM Re:The waiting game [Re: jackstraw]
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John,

I got the "DH" '78 Parker today and OH MY GOODNESS!!! I didn't think that card (a '78 Cobra) could look like that. Absolutely unreal! I've owned half the PSA pop and countless raw copies over the years and this is the absolute finest copy I could hope for. If you push it 4% to the left it is a legitimate pristine copy. No "mushy" registration, roller debris, bleeding, corner fuzz, edge dimples, stains, etc. Razor sharp and TONS of ink and razor focused! Needless to say I gambled right by selling my PSA 9 to the 78 cert. buyers. The graded card game is funny, I upgrade the Parker a legitimate 1-2 full grades and made twenty bucks for my trouble! Strangely, the Concepcion I won (SGC 96) is also my new set card. It beat all of my others including my 9's. Now, to find you that '76 Bull. By the way, I have a virtually perfect '77 Bull if you are interested.
78's are really attractive in the SGC holder!

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#235257 - 01/14/04 05:04 PM Re:Update . [Re: downgoesfrazier]
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hi phil,
i have to say you are one if not my favorite collector!you describe cards in a way you just can't get anywhere else! i too am very happy with the cards i got from dh and wanted that parker bad!!!!! the jax's rb,lynn,bull,bat,sb and era ldr cards are all top of the line. if i could steal a line from you they are my set cards! i picked up a roby rb (psa 9) that is not to my standards too much printing problems and it would have a hard time crossing to an sgc 96!!! i bought the card because it was dead centered so i figured everything else was there.
on the crossover update> the baylor,randy jones,rangers and blue jays cards all crossed to 96's the red sox and braves didn't.
also picked up the 76 AL HR ldr card in an sgc 96 and it's now my set card.picked up psa 9's on the bobby darwin,dodgers,jerry johnson and the roy smalley rookie(tough card) in a psa 8.oh yeah i also picked up a 75 christianson in a 92, it has some snow but other than that its nice. one of the harder 75's to find with out snow.
also working a deal with remo and should be paid and shipped hopefully by monday.
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#235258 - 01/15/04 06:54 AM Re:Update . [Re: jackstraw]
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John,
Thanks for the kind words! I have listed some 76's on eBay under a new seller name "pack-fresh". Feel free to browse. Some decent 76's in there. The Griffey 96 has a stunning image and very clean. The Rose is accurately graded as is the Morgan as 92's. There are problems but not distracting ones. The Rose is a keeper as it outdistances most 8's and leaves 7-8 hundred extra dollars in your pocket from the expense of a 9. That sound like you did quite well recently with your sets. Doesn't it feel great to add a handful of quality cards in a short period of time? Be well!

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#235259 - 01/17/04 05:14 PM Re:Update . [Re: downgoesfrazier]
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picked up a psa 9 76 topps larry christianson! very tough card. i am done with crossing cards i just think its a waste of money so my 76 set will be a split set and hopefully someone will come up with a site that allows the mixed set? this will be impossible unless sgc comes up with a cert verification.
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#235260 - 01/17/04 05:25 PM Re:Update . [Re: jackstraw]
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JB > I heard that GA was going to do that with their registry, but that was many moons ago. You might consider listing your PSA cards in the description section of your SGC registered set.
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#235261 - 01/24/04 07:42 AM Re:76 Topps Update! [Re: vayank]
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i just picked up the murcer in 96 mint grade from sabino56 on ebay. i am hoping to pay for the 9 sgc 96's from remo this weekend. i have had a shortage of cash of late so its either eat or have cards? i choose eating this past week but this coming week it may be bologna all week!
i also started a sgc modern star card set and requested an 81 topps set in the registry. i have a problem with the way i collect set. why when you load cards you can't load them in the order that you want them? i loaded a bunch of cards from 81 topps and they didn't go in numerical order? we should be able to load cards on a monthly/weekly basis and be able to insert them in the order that we want them to show up?
i always wanted to just do a 70's hof/star card set(no commons) but if i can't insert them in order of year/then card number it would be all over the place!
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#235262 - 01/24/04 09:26 AM The Way I Collect Set - Loading Cards [Re: jackstraw]
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Bouffard,

I have the same problems. But it did not bother me so I did not say anything.
I haven't added much there lately and my set is rather small. On the 81 Topps
I'd be interested in any extra Phillies you come across in Sgc 96 or Psa 9
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#235263 - 02/06/04 06:51 PM Re:complaint [Re: aconte]
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hi guys,
i won the concepcion 96 off sabino. the guy doesn't take paypal so its wait and see . i am really starting to not bid on items unless paypal is involved because its just a pain in the @ss to get MO and mail. its not like the guy has given me any update like received payment and shipped on such and such!!

remo, i know we had a deal and i kind of blew it off and i am sorry lmk if you still want to go ahead and do it. i can paypal you if you still have the cards? i noticed them on ebay and then they were yanked please email me. sorry again sometimes my eyes are bigger than my wallet
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#235264 - 02/08/04 10:37 AM Re:76 updates [Re: jackstraw]
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well i was hoping to get the murcer and the concepcion in the mail yesterday but no dice . this is why i am seriously considering not buying off dealers that don't except paypal? i am eyeballing a card in the gemint auctions that i would love to have and seldom comes up for sale.
i did add a 76 cey (PSA 9). a real nice card and accuratly graded i am hoping for a spring training crossover special? i would imagine with all the jim crandell stuff going on they will do something to help jim sway his decesion?
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#235265 - 02/09/04 08:18 PM Re:76 updates [Re: jackstraw]
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if anyone cares i got the murcer and concepcion today and both are very nice cards
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#235266 - 02/09/04 08:23 PM Re:76 updates [Re: jackstraw]
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Bouffard,

Just logged in and went to the important posts first. I see I got a lot of reading to
do. I care on your 76's. One of my favorite 70's sets. Congrats on the cards.

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#235267 - 02/10/04 08:25 AM Re:76 updates [Re: aconte]
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nothing floats my boat more then a crisp 76 topps regardless of the holder! if i can steal a phrase from one of the best guys in the hobby "these are my set cards"!
i have a few bids in on the gai's that are on ebay and hopefully they will become my set cards too! i can't imagine i will win any of them at 5.00 and 6.00 each considering they are graded gem mint and i can't imagine that gai is that far off from "my scale for a mint/gem card" . out of the big 4 i would say all have a pretty good grasp on this issue! the biggest problem with this issue is the dreaded diamond cut! print smudges are a close second! psa seems to be a bit forgiving on the "DC" and print(I think this is were psa has become automated). sgc seems to be forgiving on the "DC" but holds the print first and foremost. i have not really handled enough 76's from gai but the ones i have seen to be on par with the psa standards.beckett is another that i have not handled enough from them but the ones i have usually went to psa (76 carew 9 to a 9, yankees team 9 to a 10 and the same with a mets team 9 to a 10) so i guess they have a good handle on them!

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#235268 - 02/10/04 01:02 PM Re:76 updates [Re: jackstraw]
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John,

Congrats on the 76 additions. I was a bit envious to see you crossed a BVG 9.0 Carew to a SGC 96 Carew, in that I'm looking for that grade in a Beckett holder to close out a run of 8.5 to 9.0 BVG Carew Topps cards. I could have used that card I started with BVG for Topps Carew's in Minny uniform and want to finish it out that way.

Let me know if you run across any extra Topps 1976 graded 88 or 92 with all-star designations on them.



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#235269 - 02/11/04 12:02 AM Re:76 updates [Re: estang]
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i would suggest a nicely centered psa 9 which usually can be had for around 80 bucks and then cross it over!the card rarely comes up for sale in sgc or beckett
it is one of my favorites in the set but then again there isn't a carew card that i don't like! the GARVEY has been on ebay and another that rarely comes up for sale in mint grade so this is probably the closest you will get to mint!
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#235270 - 02/11/04 04:44 AM Re:76 updates [Re: jackstraw]
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Jim,

Thanks for the advice and link to Garvey.

As for Carew, the BVG Topps regular issue cards I need have either zero or very few in the pop report, so your advice to buy 9s and cross is well taken. The details from BVG on the cards I need in 8.5 and higher are:

1969: zero
1971: zero
1973: zero
1974: 3 8.5s
1976: 1 8.5 and 1 9.5 (placed bid and lost it)

I wonder if you wouldn't mind letting BVG/Beckett know you crossed the 9.0 1976 card over, if you haven't already. Their current pop. report lists just one. So when I do complete it, I can boast even more on the scarcity in the run of Carew's in their holder. Thanks. I'll even do it for you if you have the label to send over to them.

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#235271 - 02/11/04 11:17 AM Re:76 Topps Rod Carew [Re: estang]
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erik,
here is picture of the label. i have to say it was a real sharp card and i know where it is. getting it back might be tough but i can ask.
talk to you later

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#235272 - 02/11/04 11:33 AM Re:76 Topps Rod Carew [Re: jackstraw]
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#235273 - 02/11/04 09:19 PM Re:memories of a 7 year old [Re: jackstraw]
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mom can have a dollar so i can get one of these and a big gulp?

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#235274 - 02/13/04 12:06 PM Re:question [Re: jackstraw]
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my 76 topps set has 27 96's and 3 92's why is my avg grade 89.something?
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#235275 - 02/13/04 02:19 PM Re:question [Re: jackstraw]
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my bet is that it hasn't been updated yet -- for some reason, it seems that when you add cards, they go into your average as zero's until verified.
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#235276 - 02/13/04 06:53 PM Re:1976 Topps Dan Ford [Re: srs1a]
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just won this baby for 28 dollars. it is one of the tougher cards in mint condition in the 76 series

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#235277 - 02/14/04 07:31 AM Re:1976 Topps Dan Ford [Re: jackstraw]
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also scored this one. not sure if i keep them as is or send to sgc ?

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#235278 - 02/14/04 08:37 PM Re:1976 Topps Dan Ford [Re: jackstraw]
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The Sutton looks like it would be a solid 96 to me but the Ford, for some reason, looks to be slightly off T/B. May be just the scan. I dont know, its late, may be just my eyes.
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#235279 - 02/15/04 08:40 AM Re:why can't i find these in sgc? [Re: Vintagedeputy]
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i can't imagine that gai is that far off? i will submit both with a min of 96 on them and see what happens. i just noticed that the same dealer put a few more out on ebay. why are these cards not submitted to sgc? they need to start doing something here or its going to be lights out.i am getting sick of having to buy psa or gai to cross to sgc. i am seriously starting to think that its not the way to go and might decide to give up on the whole thing here soon! i should be able to find these in sgc before i can find them in gai!
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#235280 - 02/16/04 08:05 AM Re:why can't i find these in sgc? [Re: jackstraw]
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John,

I'm sure that there will be plenty of 1976 and 1978 SGC cards making their way onto ebay in the following months. It's OK to pick-up some good deals to possibly cross-over at a later date, and you may be better off to hold-off on the x-overs until you get toward the end.

The 1976 Dan Ford is a sweet card, as you gotta like the rookie trophy and the baby blue uniform with red trim. I purchased about 20 of these raw from an ebayer that said they were NM/MT and better. Most were poorly centered, with some real bad miss cuts and had print marks/smudges. I found just a couple to send off for grading. I've attached my best example, a SGC 92 Ford.

I have an extra Ford in SGC 88 and an extra Bostock in SGC 88, along with a Hank Aaron Record Breaker in SGC 86 (without split grade on flip).

Anyway, I think you'll get there with some patience. You should notify 'crashtestalex' and 'dhcards', whom are both popular SGC ebay sellers of your SGC registry quests. I know I've given them both my intentions of a Vikings Topps/Philly/Fleer 60s to 70s SGC run and I would expect that they give me consideration when they submit to grading or scout for raw at shows. It doesn't hurt.

I also remember a slew of 76s on ebay graded SGC 88 to 96 that went for under $5 a pop, with many not receiving bids. This was about 6 months ago.

BTW, I also picked up the 76 Garvey in SGC 92 from 'crashtestalex' on ebay for about $12, including shipping. I really like a SGC 92 in lieu of a mint, at the usual price break.



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#235281 - 02/16/04 06:11 PM Re:thoughts [Re: estang]
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estang,
i am pretty much sticking with 76's for now. that could change without further notice?
yes the twin cards from 76 have always been some of my favorites especially the ford,carew,solderholm,briggs and oliva. the briggs and oliva are pretty much non existant in mint and centered condition!
i will pace myself and in no rush to the finish because once its finished in mint condition i don't really have any plans to collect anything else?
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#235282 - 02/18/04 11:51 AM Re:additions [Re: jackstraw]
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#505 mark belanger sgc 96

looked nice from the scan so cross the fingers and wait! another non-paypal user
so its to the post office for me to get a money order and stamp to mail ?
i don't get it when he would have his money already minus 20 cents?

oh well
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#235283 - 02/18/04 01:20 PM Re:additions [Re: jackstraw]
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just added from our good friend remo.

109 larry lintz sgc 96
129 andy etchebarren sgc 96
148 stan thomas sgc 96
185 dave parker sgc 96
189 claudell washington sgc 96
209 alan ashby sgc 96
305 andy messersmith sgc 96
375 ron fairly sgc 96
489 skip jutze sgc 96
remo was very patient with me and my finances so a big thanks to him!
i also added my 81 topps set to the registry. i like the hof ers and stars,team cards and have no intentions of having the commons graded out! i guess from what i hear if anybody has a mint and centered johnny bench card from the 81 set it is better than having stock in disney! get it graded now and sell for big profits!
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#235284 - 02/18/04 01:26 PM Re:additions [Re: jackstraw]
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Congrats on the A-Rod card. Will you cross it?

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#235285 - 02/18/04 01:30 PM Re:additions [Re: aconte]
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i think i will just put it up on the auction block but maybe mastro
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#235286 - 02/18/04 01:44 PM Re:additions [Re: jackstraw]
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#235287 - 02/18/04 01:46 PM Re:additions [Re: aconte]
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i should be able to double my money
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#235288 - 02/20/04 02:03 PM Re:A Confession! [Re: jackstraw]
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ok guys i am sorry i have not been honest first off i did win a bunch of 96's from CTALEX awhile ago. well i had cracked them out to send to psa. well i didn't buy their collectors package so i still have them raw. i am sending them in monday and all should 96 again? i hope
here is my submission and i will note which cards were in 96 holders
11 hughes(96),15 scott,87 burgmeir,96 bird(hoping for the 100 on this one),104 reds(96),117 jorgenson,118 red sox,141 parrish,174 hough(96),178 buskey)96),190 matlack,205 fireman,214 solderholm,226 sundberg,245 millian,246 tovar(96),265 davis)96(,274 harper,277 cubs(96),301 brown(96),326 pole,372 baldwin(96),378 stone,403 zahn,405 fingers,463 hargen,468 alou,484 raich,546 rosello,559 wright(96),573 travers(96),617 knowles,636 decker,637 bochte(96),638 alexander,641 pacoriak,652 armbrister,654 griffin! all have been looked at under 10x loupe so i am hoping for alot of 96's but i am sure i will get killed by the 92's
sorry no phillies but lots of cubs and twins speakig of pennsylvania baseball teams both the pirates and phillies are some of the most plagued with printing defective cards in the set
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#235289 - 02/20/04 05:33 PM Re:A Confession! [Re: jackstraw]
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#235290 - 02/20/04 06:16 PM Re:A Confession! [Re: MW1]
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Quote:

Aha! Baseball card heretic!





Geez, I know. We may have to conduct an intervention for him!!!

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#235291 - 02/20/04 08:51 PM Bouffard - Good Luck! [Re: MW1]
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Bouffard,

It will be tough to duplicate the 96's on the submission. This is my guess.
I would not be surprised you score the 92. If that were a red man card,
that would be sweet. But for 76's or 81's that is a death blow. But it serves
you right for cracking them out. Only kidding! Anyhow, I got a bunch
of Psa 9 81 Phillies (got your's tonight) (no teasing MW1 - the cards are
nice and a lot cheaper and easier to get a 96 than 50's).
I may be interested in your's and Buttermarc's 81 Phils in 96 if they
become available. I got to ask Sean what it would cost to cross my Psa 81's
to Sgc. I'm probably better off just sinking the money in other Sgc
cards which is probably what I'll do. In this case, I'll get the last few Phils
I need in Psa holders to match what I have. And I promise this is my only
modern graded collection!

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#235292 - 02/21/04 03:22 PM Re:GAI is Terrible! [Re: aconte]
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got the cards today and i don't know what rocchi and baker were smoking but these holders suck!!! first the ford and sutton were wedged under the "gasket" on the top because their holders are too deep and allow the card to curl! the sutton now has a chip along the top boarder! thanks for coming in! i have no use and have been screaming about this since i first bought a gai card! i will not buy anymore! i would rather them in a card saver then this junk! i am so upset its not even funny!
i can't for one minute believe that dimitri and charlie would put their top dollar cards and or sets in this garbage?
btw mw,vayank and aconte you guys are funny i will score 96 again watch and learn!
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#235293 - 02/21/04 05:40 PM Re:GAI is Terrible! [Re: jackstraw]
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Bouffard,

I agree. I have always felt that the GAI holder had (well....still has) a makeshift look and feel to it.

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#235294 - 02/21/04 07:09 PM Re:GAI is Terrible! [Re: MW1]
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I originally thought the GAI holder was awesome. This was probably akin to thinking the babe in my 6th grade class who moved here from Toledo was totally smokin' just because she was new. As time has gone on, however, I too feel that the holder is impractical and dangerous for cards that a collector may value.
Along the same lines, I always felt PSA's holder was a dinosaur and rather unappealing. Today, however, I favor it above all others. It is clean, lightweight and simple. I would prefer the flip to be a more neutral color (SGC green is nice).
My biggest issue with PSA's holder these days is the inconsistency in it's condition (smoked, scratched, oily rainbows--don't know what else to call them, etc) when it arrives to my door. In addition, you never know if the card inside the holder will match the name on the label. Honest mistakes, but really annoying and increasing in frequency of late.

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#235295 - 02/21/04 07:24 PM Re:GAI is Terrible! [Re: downgoesfrazier]
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Question: Is it possible that GAI holders have an inherent manufacturing flaw? That is, the black insert does not fit properly inside of the holder, causing the card to move about and become susceptible to damage? Is it possible the depth of the holder relative to the black insert is part of the problem?

It seems to me that if this is the case, then GAI had better redesign its holders before more hobbyists experience a problem.

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#235296 - 02/22/04 06:39 AM Re:A Confession! [Re: vayank]
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If you kept the labels when you cracked them, I'd encourage you to send the raw cards back to SGC with them. Perhaps some aplogetic, funny note on you going temporarily insance and have now seen the light, will help them attain their original grade.

Ouch, that's a costly mistake.

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#235297 - 02/22/04 08:27 AM Re:A Confession! [Re: estang]
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phil,
are you taking offers on the rice i will make you an offer if you are accepting them? i don't want to make an offer if you have no intention on selling? lmk and i will email an offer to you?
mw,
i think with all the years that baker and rocchi have in the card grading business they would have come up with something a bit better, more secure and practical?
joe tuttle is getting way too many 9.5's and i can honestly say this because i now own 1 and won another 4 last night! when i get them they will probably be the last and it looks to me that the "good ole boy network" is full steam ahead!
the well is way too deep and this is for the new thicker cards and not the thin cards that we collect and have graded!
estang,
yes its was costly but i really wanted that ford and was kind of leaning on the sutton because of his hall of fame status! i am pretty sure that the ford will 96 but there is not a chance it will 98 or even psa 10 so i guess i spent 35 bucks for a 76 topps ford sgc 96, not bad and i doubt i could pick one up at the price in a psa 9 and probably would have a hard time getting that in an sgc 96. i am most upset with the sutton. it now has a chip along the top and will have a hard time 96ing but i will try .
btw gai holders are hands down the easiest to get into without any signs of tampering!
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#235298 - 02/22/04 09:28 AM Re:A Confession! [Re: jackstraw]
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Again, I must be one lucky person....after submitting 8 separate bulk invoices to GAI in the past eight months, I have not had a single card "slip" through the black border. I have close to 1300 GAI cards in my possession now.

I won't go into the aesthetics of the holders out there as that is purely subjective with no wrong or right answers...but as far as security, tamper-resistant is concerned, the GAI holder is far more secure than PSA or SGC imho...this comes from experience in busting out many a PSA and SGC card from the holder without damage to the holder at all.

Bouffard, I would recommend you discuss this with GAI, your cards have been damaged and as a customer you deserve better. Accusing the senior people of drug use (albeit in a tongue and cheek fashion), isn't the way I would begin the process of addressing my complaint(s).

MW...can you provide examples of the GAI Management Practices that are unappealing to you...if it's the "preference to larger dealers as far as grading is concerned," my experiences with them would make me tend to disagree with you on this one my friend.
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#235299 - 02/22/04 10:00 AM Re:A Confession! [Re: grilloj39]
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Bouffard, I would recommend you discuss this with GAI, your cards have been damaged and as a customer you deserve better. Accusing the senior people of drug use (albeit in a tongue and cheek fashion), isn't the way I would begin the process of addressing my complaint(s).





grillo, this is my complaint! why should i as a consumer of graded baseball cards have to call the pres of a grading company to address my complaint? i don't feel confident in buying their cards and after last nights 4 wins(or should i say losses) i won't buy anymore. i don't need the stress of buying graded baseball cards added to my list of stressfull things! i am not sure what else to say other then that. i don't have a million dollars in the bank so yes for me to spend 50 dollars on cards is big for me. i don't need to drop that kind of money on a IMHO a third rate holder and an over graded card!
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#235300 - 02/22/04 10:20 AM Re:A Confession! [Re: jackstraw]
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Bouffard...true, it is your cards, your complaint and you can do so as you wish. If you have decided to "chalk it up" as a lesson learned and just do not want to buy GAI cards anymore, then I understand.

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#235301 - 02/22/04 11:42 AM Re:GAI is Terrible! [Re: MW1]
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My only experience with GAI was at last year's Sportsfest in Chicago. You were able to watch GAI graders grade cards - they were not behind a curtain. During the time I watched the graders, most cards were graded by one grader in less than 30 seconds and without the use of a magnifier. From a collectors perspective, not exactly a confidence building performance by GAI.
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#235302 - 02/22/04 12:02 PM Re:GAI is Terrible! [Re: wrigleyfield]
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I have yet to purchase any GAI graded cards. At the last Ft. Washington show I did notice at 9th Inning's table that one of his GAI graded card with a similar problem, the card had slipped a hair under the gasket.

I too watched the graders at GAI grading cards in the open. It really amazes me that they can grade a card so quickly and still pick out flaws in the card in that short period of time. It was nice being able to chat with them.

I still like what SGC does (And PSA), grading cards in a darkened area with proper light. I find that I am better able to view cards in a dark room with a nice lamp.

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#235303 - 02/22/04 01:13 PM Re:GAI is Terrible! [Re: KLL]
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the slipping under the "gasket" is nothing new. they have had this problem since day 1. there is also way too much room for the card to move around and also damage the card.
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#235304 - 02/22/04 04:14 PM Re:1976 TOPPS Rod Carew [Re: jackstraw]
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estang i think you might want to check this one out and take a 10 dollar chance on it. LOOKS NICE

its almost worth a chance with that centering and color i would go for it.
anybody else have any advice?
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#235305 - 02/23/04 04:44 PM Re:1976 TOPPS EL TIANTE [Re: jackstraw]
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picked up an El Tiante in sgc 96. was going to hit the rusty staub but the small scan and the centering kind of scared me away.


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#235306 - 02/23/04 08:33 PM Re:1976 TOPPS EL TIANTE [Re: jackstraw]
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I saw the Staub and it was a good move to pass. Patience my good man
will get you the cards you want. Otherwise, you'll just replace it later.

I wish I'd listen to my own advice...

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#235307 - 02/25/04 11:21 AM Re:1976 TOPPS PICK UPS [Re: aconte]
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hi guys,
picked up the following
patek gai 9.5,kendall gai 9.5,tolan gai 9.5,lindblad psa 9(toughie),cardenas psa 9.
i hoping for a crossover to 96 on the 3 gai's but the psa's will stay as is for now!

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#235308 - 02/25/04 01:31 PM Re:1976 TOPPS PICK UPS [Re: jackstraw]
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john, you should have 8 more 96s tomorrow at your front door thanks again.
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#235309 - 02/25/04 02:08 PM Re:1976 TOPPS PICK UPS [Re: remo]
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you mean 9 i hope
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#235310 - 02/26/04 12:58 PM Re:1976 TOPPS PICK UPS [Re: jackstraw]
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got the cards from remo today and all are nice! i uploaded picks so enjoy.

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#235311 - 02/28/04 08:08 AM Re:Help Me Understand [Re: jackstraw]
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this guy?as you know i follow and collect this set but this guy is killing me! i don't care how much money you have to wipe your behind with? this isn't a hobby for him its a quest to have a 20,000 dollar 76 topps baseball card set?believe me i have been tracking him since he came on the scene about 9 months ago and i bet he has close to that invested in this set now!

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#235312 - 02/28/04 08:15 AM Re:Help Me Understand [Re: jackstraw]
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Congrats to gemint for cashing in!

I told buttermarc that a fool and his money would not be parted when I spoke
about the Psa 10 Reggie Jackson rookie. I am mistaken. If I had all the money
in the world I would not care about how I spent it on cards. But I would definitely
change my ebay id so nobody could figure out it was me buying these cards
at those prices. I don't like being laughed at by the hobby geniuses.

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#235313 - 02/28/04 08:19 AM Re:Help Me Understand [Re: aconte]
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Quote:

I don't like being laughed at by the hobby geniuses





thank you but i am far from a genius! i do know a little bit about 76 topps baseball cards
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#235314 - 03/02/04 12:03 PM Re:gai 9.5's [Re: jackstraw]
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received the 56 tolan,167 patek,551 davanon and 639 kendall yesterday. very nice cards this time around. i got my eye on a couple more now! sorry i know i said i wouln't buy anymore but couldn't help myself with the 4 others i bid on.
my 38 card submission was received yesterday so its 18 days and counting.

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#235315 - 03/02/04 01:10 PM Re:gai 9.5's [Re: jackstraw]
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John...I saw those cards too...you picked up a great bargain on those. I like to manually snipe at auctions but I wasn't home at the time of closing or I might have won a couple myself. Congrats.
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#235316 - 03/02/04 09:07 PM Re:another 76 pick up [Re: grilloj39]
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just picked up the 149 tommy davis gai 9. rather tough card that i don't ever remember seeing in a psa 9. 4.99 + 3.00 ship + 7.00 crossover so for 15.00 i got another 96 to add to my collection.i have set a goal of 150 96's by july 1st and 300 by jan 1st and then i can spend most of 05 and 06 and probably 07 finishing off this set in 96 condition. i am sure if and when a brett comes up for sale i won't have the money to buy it! i figure sooner or later somewhere there is going to be a small hoard of mint vending bretts come up for sale?

oh well it will be fun trying

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#235317 - 03/03/04 08:37 PM Re:1976 TOPPS [Re: jackstraw]
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well i got the tiant and belanger today, will be adding them to my set later.
17 days to touchdown i hate waiting for this stuff!
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#235318 - 03/05/04 07:15 PM Re:1976 TOPPS [Re: jackstraw]
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"...i am sure if and when a brett comes up for sale i won't have the money to buy it! i figure sooner or later somewhere there is going to be a small hoard of mint vending bretts come up for sale?"

...Yeah John, those 76 Brett's will probably be auctioned with the dead-centered focused razor-sharp stack of 77 Ken Bretts...




...for the unenlightened, the 77 Ken Brett is actually tougher than Georges 76.


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#235319 - 03/06/04 04:48 AM Re:1977 TOPPS [Re: downgoesfrazier]
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phil,
i really like what you have done with your 77 set. i love the pictures and that tommy helms card has to be one of the best airbrushing jobs in topps history i don't even think i know what a 77 brett looks like?
i will be on the look out for one!
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#235320 - 03/06/04 06:44 AM Re:31 MORE ENROUTE TO JERSEY [Re: jackstraw]
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41,82,90,105,108,115,116,144,183(Gary Miller look a like contest winner)steve braun?,198,223,224,233,281,303,327,351,366,371,434,437,447,461,467,501,511,536,542,557,631,646.............also got a crossover sub ready and waiting for a special?77 topps bobby bonds gai 9,1976 topps 10.brock,46 dodgers team,66 bell F&S,67.boone F&S,99.lacy,56 tolan,167 patek,313 ford,530 sutton,551 davanon,639 kendall.........
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#235321 - 03/07/04 03:00 PM Re:OPINIONS [Re: jackstraw]
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hello fellow card collectors
just wanted to let everyone know that i scanned and uploaded all the cards in my 78 set. i would like some feedback on what everyone thinks.

see ya
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#235322 - 03/07/04 04:45 PM Re:OPINIONS [Re: jackstraw]
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John,

Well., they would sure look better with a silver flip!


Seriously, they are very nice cards...my favorite is the Reggie RB, definately a classic.

You have a brutal road in front of you....over 700 cards and, apparently, looking for all 96's. Good luck.



PS. The Gary Maddux is sweet, as well. I have a soft spot in my heart for the secretary of defence. Many moons ago, my girl friend (my wife now), was in one of the local malls and saw a bunch of commotion, so asked what was up (Maddux was signing) and then waited in line. The ball reads "Scott, you've got a cool girlfriend, Gary Maddux"

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#235323 - 03/07/04 07:31 PM Re:OPINIONS [Re: jackstraw]
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Bouffard,

Nice cards. The centering and color on all the 96's I looked at is sweet. The
cards seem very clean. Srs1a is right. You got a tough road ahead. Your
patience will be tested. If your looking for only high end examples and
then try to get them in Sgc flips only for a gigantic size set, you will need
to not only be patient but good.

The Bull is nice. I should of sniped your a$$ but I know that is your set.
Also, I got a nice raw Phils team set. Finally, if you lose interest you can
at least find comfort in the fact that I'll buy your Phillies off you.

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#235324 - 03/08/04 04:14 AM Re:OPINIONS [Re: aconte]
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thanks guys,
i will be adding 92's and 88's as soon i as i get some. i know its a long road and its going to be longer when i decide to do a 77 set also. so that will be 2048 cards that i am looking for!!!!!!!!!! it is always fun for me and i have the rest of my life to complete. i will try to find as many cards as possible to submit myself and that way when they come back 88's and 92's i know they are high end! centering is key for me and the 76 set is also top priority for me right now. i will bid on 78 and 77 that are 96's but really would like the 96's in 76.
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#235325 - 03/08/04 02:38 PM Re:OPINIONS [Re: jackstraw]
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John,
I have a 77 Ken Brett on eBay right now (NM/MT). When you want to do '77 let me know. I can submit 'em anywhere you want. I can do the whole set in 88 or better today if you want to do the fees. Less than a third will grade 96, however.
The breakdown would look like this...
25-30% 96's or better
30-35% 92's
30-35% 88's
05-10% 86's usually centering of close to 3:1 killing these.
If you'd be happy with that, I'll sleeve 'em up and we'll rock and roll! Remnants of four cases and cherry-picking over here still waiting for coffins...
Plenty o' 78's as well!!! 200 PSA 9's available as well as hundreds of high-end raw boys...I love this late 70's stuff!!!

Is it me or do 78's look really nice in the SGC holder?...heck, everything looks good in their holder...

feedback: nice set!
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#235326 - 03/08/04 04:31 PM Re:OPINIONS [Re: downgoesfrazier]
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pack_fresh,

The 78's are one of my favorites too! I loved the Bull card.

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#235327 - 03/08/04 05:57 PM Re:OPINIONS [Re: aconte]
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phil,
how much for a raw nm mt set minus the hof ers?
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#235328 - 03/09/04 02:04 PM Re:2 MORE PICK UPS [Re: jackstraw]
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picked up a robin and lefty. both look real nice. i know i say that i am not really working on this set but i would be interested in a rooster,penguin and a cobra mint and centered.
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#235329 - 03/09/04 02:09 PM Re:2 MORE PICK UPS [Re: jackstraw]
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Are there any other animals from the set that you are missing besides the ones named?
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#235330 - 03/09/04 02:24 PM Re:2 MORE PICK UPS [Re: njdolphins]
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yep, i forgot about the hawk and the bird.
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#235331 - 03/09/04 07:52 PM Re:2 MORE PICK UPS [Re: jackstraw]
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ok, I remember the penquin, cobra, hawk and bird, but who was the rooster again?
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#235332 - 03/09/04 08:07 PM Re:2 MORE PICK UPS [Re: Vintagedeputy]
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that would be rick burleson.
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#235333 - 03/10/04 05:05 AM Re:2 MORE PICK UPS [Re: jackstraw]
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Do you also need the chicken?
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#235334 - 03/10/04 07:56 AM Re:2 MORE PICK UPS [Re: njdolphins]
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Fred Stanley.


John,
How nice do you want it? I have a nice set up on eBay right now--not a peach, but better than the average eBay "bear". Decent centering throughout--only a handful of clunkers. The Murphy should grade 92 or better. PSA 9 quality card there. LL missing a hint of enamel under 10x, still sharp--the other three make it easily. Centering and sufaces are very high-end. The Hawk is NM. It presents as a NM/MT card but has a bluntness 1/8" with enamel loss LL. Any wear from an edge--regardless of how small that goes to a corner whacks it to NM despite the other strong qualities the card has. Tech 7, general population would call it NM/MT.
The bird is a dog by my standards. Nice chicken, decent rooster, etc...I do have a vitually perfect 77 Bull available in a PSA 9 holder (I also have an SGC 96) if you're interested just email me. The 96 is centered a touch low, but is as freshly cut as exists. TOTALLY uncirculated card. The PSA 9 is a Gem Mint card. There were HOF'ers on the invoice I sent it in on--thus the 9. If it were on a common invoice and the grader is awake it's a 10. I'm planning to crack it or have it reviewed, but would sell it for a slight premium as is. The less PSA has to "handle" my cards the better. That goes for any grading company. I like the service, but no one cares about my cards as much as I do. To them it's $6-- to me it's $6 and time, effort, obsession, art, love, liesure time, investment, etc. Anyway, LMK about the 77 Bull.
Let's do things through email and not on the message boards,

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#235335 - 03/11/04 04:50 PM Re:submission update [Re: downgoesfrazier]
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ok i thought maybe by chance they would have maybe made some progress on my 38 card submission that they received on march 1st? well they told me today that it probably won't be done till the last week in march? i guess they are going to use evry last minute to grade them? i can hope can't i?
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#235336 - 03/13/04 07:10 AM Re:submission update [Re: jackstraw]
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good morning guys,
just want to update my card addiction and plastic case count!
nothing new on the case count but i did get another submission ready and should mail today or monday? i also was going to ask if anybody was planning a trip to new haven ct on april 3 and 4th? i will be there so if anybody is going it would be fun and then we could go to pepe's pizza for an afternoon snack. sgc will be there taking submissions! i doubt psa will be there but i am sure there will be plenty of cards available! i will be on the look out for some raw 76,77 and 78's so let me know if there is anything you guys are looking for!
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#235337 - 03/14/04 12:53 PM Re:i guess [Re: jackstraw]
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i'm going solo so i will buy all the good stuff and sell it to you guys for double book (gigantic echo)
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#235338 - 03/14/04 01:14 PM Re:i guess [Re: jackstraw]
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Sorry JB on going solo. Have fun! Keep one eye out for red man's.

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#235339 - 03/19/04 11:57 AM Re:i guess i'm crazy [Re: aconte]
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for thinking that maybe by chance i would of had me grades on the 15th business day on a 20 day special! so much for that! i should have spent the 100 bucks and bought the collectors club membership! you think they will wait till 5:00 on next friday to post my grades after all thats what i paid for! i guess it would be a cardinal sin for me to get my grades anytime earlier then that?

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#235340 - 03/21/04 07:33 PM Re:i guess i'm crazy [Re: jackstraw]
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John,
I got the '76 Madlock 10 in the mail. It's nice. Not an earth-rocker, but nice. 10-worthy but may/may not get a 10 the next time. I am comfortable saying it would take a heck of a card to top it as it is nicer than both 9's I've handled and did successfully upgrade my "set-card". I sent you a 1977 Luzinski SGC 96...can you beat the price? Did you get it, I have not heard from you.

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#235341 - 03/22/04 04:32 AM Re:I have a bull in my closet [Re: downgoesfrazier]
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PA,
first thank you and your kindness is number 1.i am looking through my cards for some nice eric davis cards to send to you. i know i have a 90 o pee chee and tiffany. i kind of had a busy weekend so i will get to them this week. thanks again
i pulled the trigger on the 76 ryan because i never ever seen one without some sort of diamond cut? i know you need the 77 express and issa(lastdecade) has quality stuff. i also love the pictures you have added to your set keep them coming. i would love to see your bull,catfish,king kong, next!
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#235342 - 03/22/04 01:22 PM Re:I have a bull in my closet [Re: jackstraw]
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John, glad you dug 'da bull. I'll throw some scans up soon...thanks for looking! Issa's got ok stuff. Ryan is an easy card. I have a couple that are tech 9's, but
I'll wait to add Dawson, Murphy, and Ryan in person. Take care,
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#235343 - 03/23/04 06:42 AM Re:I have a bull in my closet [Re: downgoesfrazier]
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picked up the carew,ryan,mcbride and bosman in psa 9. i don't think i over paid for the ryan because it is a tough card to find centered w/no tilt and free of printers problems! it is the cheapest it has gone for since i have been following the set!
i am down to 17 hof ers(counting rose) but excluding munson (who i consider a hof er), the all time all stars and aaron and seaver rec. breakers. so it's 30 big cards left. if anybody can help lmk.
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#235344 - 03/23/04 02:14 PM Re:I Think I'm [Re: jackstraw]
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Going blind from the amount of 96's i got
11.hughes 96 twins
15 scott 86??????????????????
87 burgmeir 96 twins
96 bird 96 royals
104 reds team 96
117 jorgenson 96 expos
118 red sox team 96
141 parrish 96 expos
174 hough 96 dodgers
178 busky 96 indians
190 matlack 96 mets
205 fireman ldr 96
214 solderholm 92??????????????????
226 sundberg 88????????????????????
245 millian 96 mets
246 tovar 92??????????????????
265 davis 96 padres
274 harper 96 a's
277 cubs team 96
301 brown 96 indians
326 dick pole(imagine going through life with that name) 96 red sox
372 baldwin 96 mets
378 stone 96 cubs
403 zahn 96 cubs
405 fingers 96 a's
463 hargen 96 rangers
468 alou 92??????????????????????
484 raich 96 indians
546 rosello 96 cubs
559 wright 96 rangers
573 travers 96 brewers
617 knowles 96 cubs
636 decker 96 twins
637 bochte 96 angels
638 alexander 96 orioles
641 pacoirek 92??????????????????
652 armbrister 96 reds
654 griffin 96 red sox

i thought the tovar was a 96(it was once before) and not sure what happend with the alou and scott cards.
oh well i new i wouldn't 100% 96's but pretty close
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#235345 - 03/25/04 11:38 AM Re:DON'T ASK [Re: jackstraw]
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yes i changed my name to jackstraw not that anyone pays any attention to this thread
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#235346 - 03/25/04 11:45 AM Re:3 OF MY LATEST RETURNS [Re: jackstraw]
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#235347 - 03/25/04 11:48 AM Re:DON'T ASK [Re: jackstraw]
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#235348 - 03/25/04 11:49 AM Re:3 OF MY LATEST RETURNS [Re: jackstraw]
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The Hughes card is probaly one of the tougher commons in the set to find that nice.I have seen the burgmeier and bird in mint shape before so no big feat there but they sure do look nice in them holders don't they?hopefully the silver and gold flip are not far behind


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#235349 - 03/25/04 12:19 PM Nice Cards - But this one I really like! [Re: jackstraw]
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NICE 78!

Sweet Mr. October!

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#235350 - 03/25/04 02:39 PM Re: Nice Cards - But this one I really like! [Re: aconte]
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I bought that card from Mr. December (dhcards) as much as this winter has stunk i for some reason can't wait till december




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#235351 - 03/26/04 01:50 PM Re: Nice Cards - But this one I really like! [Re: aconte]
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Fantabulous! Some keepers there. I entered Rice and Luzinski for your viewing pleasure.
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#235352 - 03/26/04 04:55 PM Re: Nice Cards - But this one I really like! [Re: downgoesfrazier]
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noticed them check your set daily very nice rice gotta love the yankee stadium facade on so many 77's and 78's and the monster is on 1 a 75 rooster
btw wait to you see the zahn,rosello and stone total keepers and zahn looks about 12 with the ivy behind him!

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#235353 - 03/27/04 09:37 AM Re: srs1a [Re: jackstraw]
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fess up with a picture of that lefty grove. here is latest two scans from my last submission.





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#235360 - 03/27/04 03:33 PM Re:update [Re: jackstraw]
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#235361 - 03/27/04 04:14 PM Re:update [Re: jackstraw]
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JS,

Nice scans of those beauties. I remember that Cubs checklist. I thought
it was cool how it was different than the others.

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#235362 - 03/27/04 05:08 PM Re:Grove [Re: aconte]
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OK straw, here's Mr. Baggy Pants himself



I've gotta say, you've got some sweet cards. I must not have the eye for '76's 'cause I keep getting slapped around when I submit them...so even at $5 a pop, its pretty sad. Here's the first 96 that I've gotten on a '76.


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#235363 - 03/28/04 05:02 PM Re:Grove [Re: srs1a]
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the grove is one of the toughest cards in the set! i would love to find a mint example of that card! someday i guess one will surface?
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#235364 - 03/28/04 07:27 PM All those 1976 96's! [Re: jackstraw]
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Pack fresh are not even good enough words to describe those beauties.....congrats!
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#235365 - 03/28/04 07:47 PM Re: All those 1976 96's! [Re: Vintagedeputy]
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Those are simply magnificent cards. Not just the centering, but the colors just jump off the card....!
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#235366 - 03/29/04 04:20 PM Re: All those 1976 96's! [Re: vayank]
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thanks guys, i am going to send in another 40 cards + i just sent 7 crossovers today so hopefully i will be at the 100 mark in 4 weeks?
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#235367 - 03/30/04 08:45 PM Re: All those 1976 96's! [Re: jackstraw]
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John,
I listed a couple of the nicest 77's you'll see pop up for a looooong time. A Luzinski and a Lynn that will make you cry. I expect some play from you

Listed under "mint70s"...


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those 76's are gorgeous!!! If they could cook, I'd marry 'em!
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#235368 - 03/31/04 04:43 PM Re: All those 1976 96's! [Re: downgoesfrazier]
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good evening,
as you all know i love 76's and i started picking up a few 76 topps football cards i do remember collecting these after the baseball season. i have no intentions of putting togather a set but rather pick up 96's when i see them for cheap. cheap being the main word
i bought the paul krause,roman gabrial(who for some reason i thought was a HOF'er) and mel renfro in sgc 96!so here you go







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#235369 - 04/03/04 05:29 PM Re: latest pick up [Re: jackstraw]
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#235370 - 04/05/04 12:34 PM Re: latest pick up [Re: jackstraw]
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Jackstraw- Nice cards. Renfro looks like he still has his helmet on.
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#235371 - 04/05/04 07:28 PM Re: latest pick up [Re: Fabfrank]
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Straw,
Did you see the sick Bull I have up? That's cool if you don't bid, but at least cop a peek

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&include=0&userid=mint70s&sort=3&rows=25&since=-1&rd=1

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#235372 - 04/05/04 10:09 PM Re: nice pick up [Re: downgoesfrazier]
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were the heck was redsox JEFF ? i have a few bids in already,bowa,nolan and evans.
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#235373 - 04/06/04 08:54 AM Jeff? [Re: jackstraw]
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You'll have to email me for that answer. Quite frankly, I didn't bid with the exception of the first day to track it. I am getting tired of guys listing "POP 1!!!" knowing that Jeff and I will go after each-other. If a seller would simply email me with cards he may want to sell I will pay much more aggressively than I will bid on-line. On two occasions recently, I spoke by not bidding and seeing the card go for the opening bid of 9.99. Jeff does the same now. I understand that these won't be "POP 1's" forever. I generally offer 5-6x times off-line what the realized price is, if a seller wants to be Mr. Big Shot, let him see that I'm the only idiot in town and work to get his grading fees back. The phrase "low-pop" is overused as an old pair of sneakers when referring to commons. I'll fill you in more when/if we "talk".
Check out the attachment for a card that promises to be a "low-pop" forever. PSA 10 and as nice as it will ever come...no 9's to date...just the 10 and, man, is it sharp! Funny thing is, it's worth about 500 bucks to me and Jeff...about 50-60 bucks to the general collector. I'm glad it has a nice home

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#235374 - 04/13/04 04:18 PM Re:update [Re: downgoesfrazier]
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well i tried to cross over the following.
1976 topps bob tolan gai 9.5 crossed to a 96,76 topps freddie patek gai 9.5 didn't cross,76 topps dan ford gai 9.5 crossed to a 96,76 topps don sutton gai 9.0 didn't cross,76 topps jerry davanon gai 9.5 crossed to a 96,76 topps fred kendall gai 9.5 didn't cross. i thought for sure the patek and kendall were sure shot 96's i knew the sutton would be trouble because that was the one that got stuck under the sleeve so i am stuck with 42.00 dollar sutton that i might be able to get 15 bucks for it on ebay?
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#235375 - 04/13/04 05:34 PM Re:update [Re: jackstraw]
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Tough one Straw. Actually, kind of brutal that some of your GAI 9.5s didn't land in 96 holders.

I'm starting to be a believer that SGC is the tougher than anyone on 9's and above. My personal experience (68T baseball, my own submissions) is a single 98 with 60+ 96's....1 out of 60...man, that's a tough 10! And, I thought that more than a few of the 96's were nicer than the 98...but what do I know?

Gaspipe also said the other day that he was having good luck crossing 92's to PSA-9's (out of the holder).

Hmmmm, all I can say is nice sets deadlyembrace

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#235376 - 04/13/04 05:59 PM Re:update [Re: srs1a]
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i am not sure what i have to do to garner the 98 grade? that tolan and kendall i thought were sure shot 98's and the patek was close and could go either way and i wouldn't be upset.i will say one thing i have 3 96's that i know are worse then those two! oh well as the sig line says 597 more to go!
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#235377 - 04/13/04 07:42 PM Re:blambro [Re: jackstraw]
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dag nab it blambro just blew by me and added some tough 96's reuss,lopes and stinking willie horton i wonder if he crossed over his psa 9's?
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#235378 - 04/15/04 06:12 PM Re:76 updates [Re: jackstraw]
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if anyone cares i will say that the patek and kendall should have crossed over without a doubt! i think i should have just cracked them out and mailed them under the 5 buck special? i just hate risking getting 92's because i really want 96's and up!





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#235379 - 04/15/04 07:40 PM Re:76 updates [Re: jackstraw]
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Straw, my experience with cards that I first tried to cross...then cracked out when they didn't was 1 out of 3...so if your feeling lucky...
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#235380 - 04/16/04 01:14 PM Re:update [Re: srs1a]
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Tough one Straw. Actually, kind of brutal that some of your GAI 9.5s didn't land in 96 holders.

I'm starting to be a believer that SGC is the tougher than anyone on 9's and above. My personal experience (68T baseball, my own submissions) is a single 98 with 60+ 96's....1 out of 60...man, that's a tough 10! And, I thought that more than a few of the 96's were nicer than the 98...but what do I know?

Gaspipe also said the other day that he was having good luck crossing 92's to PSA-9's (out of the holder).

Hmmmm, all I can say is nice sets deadlyembrace




I think it's a crapshoot crossing Mint cards over to other holders. I've tried cracking a handful of SGC 96's to try for PSA 9's and none crossed. They were solid cards but had micro touches on a corner and could have gone either way. But I wouldn't extrapolate from that and say no SGC 96 would cross. If you want to have success crossing Mint cards, you need to really scrutinize the cards before resubmitting them. If they're borderline 9's or 96's, they probably aren't worth resubmitting.

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#235381 - 04/16/04 01:30 PM Re:update [Re: gemint]
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gemint, agreed. The further up you go, the tougher the cross. I'm still a little suprised that a GAI-9.5 (GEM)...didn't land in a SGC-96 (MINT) holder.
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#235382 - 04/16/04 02:44 PM Re:update [Re: srs1a]
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gemint, agreed. The further up you go, the tougher the cross. I'm still a little suprised that a GAI-9.5 (GEM)...didn't land in a SGC-96 (MINT) holder.




I agree, a gem should cross to at least a mint grade. Did you see any defects that warranted dropping it to a NM-MT grade?

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#235383 - 04/16/04 04:36 PM Re:Lesson Learned! [Re: gemint]
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i am sure i am in the majority here? i should have cracked them out and submitted them raw.i am positive that the patek and kendall would have got 96's. i was unsure and almost positive the sutton would not cross(that one was a 9 and got stuck under the sleeve).the patek is mint and sgc circled the bottom left corner? i don't see anything wrong with it other than my wife could sew with it.the kendall is mint and again sgc circled a faint and i mean faint line across the netting behind him? i would like to think that they (all the grading company's)say well you should have bought them in our holders? so i have learned my lesson crack them out and submit raw. this is the final attempt to cross over cards anyways, i will buy psa and sgc that look good to me. thanks for the responses guys i often think i am talking to myself here
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#235384 - 04/16/04 04:59 PM Re:Lesson Learned! [Re: jackstraw]
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For commons, I agree that cracking them out of their current holders gives you the best chance of successful crossover. For high $ cards, the crossover service affords you the opportunity of taking a shot at crossing the card over without the risk of having it downgrade. If you crack out a blue chip card and it grades lower, you're out some serious $$$
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#235385 - 04/25/04 03:27 PM Re:thanks [Re: gemint]
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to pank21 for emailing me an offer on some 76 topps sgc 96's. it was a long 3 days of negotiations but i finally gave in and bought them just kidding!it was 2 emails and the deal was done. i will of course post pictures of my recent purchases when i get them.
#37 John Hiller,46 Dodgers Team,271 Jim Lonborg(phillie and no aconte it aint for sale ),281 Dave May,329 Joe Ferguson,338 Bob Bailey,367 Bruce Miller,385 Mickey Lolich(the closest i will ever come to having a 96 mickey),483 Mickey Stanley(thats two mint mickey's in the same batch)493 Derrel Thomas,509 Bill Hands,518 Doug Flynn,602 Doug Konieczny.................. this should push me over the 12% mark. i would like to be 30 to 35 % in 96's by the end of the year.i know i have no life but i really enjoy collecting this set. investment aside it brings me back to a time in my life were i didn't worry about mortgages,college savings,cars and repairs but were my next pack was going to happen. i remember combing the antique shows with my father and going through shoeboxs of 70's and 71's. condition didn't mean squat to me it meant more cards that i could put in elastic bands.oh well , anybody else pick up anything good this weekend?

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#235386 - 04/25/04 05:05 PM Re:thanks [Re: jackstraw]
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How does one get a 76 Bull Sgc 96?

Come on straw help me out with those connections.

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#235387 - 04/25/04 05:14 PM Re:thanks [Re: aconte]
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i think that the phillies have a better shot at winning another world series before a bull shows up in a 96 holder
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#235388 - 04/25/04 05:30 PM Re:thanks [Re: jackstraw]
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#235389 - 04/25/04 05:35 PM Re:thanks [Re: vayank]
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thats me. i just took a bath on that winfield that was grossly over graded by psa. i was honest in the description and it cost me
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#235390 - 04/28/04 05:43 PM Re:closing [Re: jackstraw]
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in on 4000 views! there must be some interest in this losing effort i will say that i would like to see them add that feature to our registered sets!oh i did add a couple of super sharp 92's from my last submission!



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#235391 - 04/28/04 09:34 PM Re:closing [Re: jackstraw]
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jackstraw,

2 very nice cards there. Looks like the L/R centering kept you from getting 96's

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#235392 - 04/29/04 05:34 AM Re:closing [Re: jackstraw]
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I've uncovered a small stash of nice looking 76's that I have raw. Would be willing to donate them in the hopes that a few might add to your cause. Send me a PM with an address and I will get them to you.

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#235393 - 04/29/04 04:11 PM Re:closing [Re: njdolphins]
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that would be great!thanks
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#235394 - 05/04/04 07:19 PM Re:pick ups [Re: jackstraw]
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picked the cruz,koosman and nolan. not the prettiest 76 i have seen from lee but none the less a good night!
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#235395 - 05/04/04 07:21 PM Re:closing [Re: jackstraw]
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Straw,

Some good wins tonight. I must say the Koosman looked nice to me.
Quick question though. What makes some go for the opening bid while
others go for much more? Is it Psa set guys bidding or just harder to
find cards? I really would like an Sgc 96 Bull and Bowa. Not sure if
you knew that or not.... especially a Bull!

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#235396 - 05/04/04 07:24 PM Re:closing [Re: aconte]
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I know the Koos was o/c a tad and the dirt from the scanner did not help
but I just thought the picture looked good on that card. Nice shot...

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#235397 - 05/05/04 05:37 AM Re:closing [Re: aconte]
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i am not sure why these cards sell for the opening bid and then someone comes out of the woods and bids on some! i do know why the others went for what they did! i thought for sure i would have got outbid on the cruz which i would put in the top 25 toughest cards in the set, not a screamer but will satisfy me.
the luzinski is tough and expensive! the second psa 9 got binned and when the 3rd comes up for sale it won't even see a 100 so you have to be patient. i want that card as bad as you. so if anybody has raw 76's look for 2 luzinskis and sell them to me!
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#235398 - 05/05/04 06:54 AM Re:closing [Re: jackstraw]
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I saw that Bull. I did not like the water mark or stain on the top center edge.
I'm hoping that one will come up for sale in an Sgc 96 holder and you'll have
yours already. That would help keep the price down.... I think....

Either way I want a nice one and the Psa 9 was flawed to me. I will be
patient.

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#235399 - 05/05/04 07:02 AM Re:closing [Re: aconte]
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the first 76 luzinski (gemints) had that same mark. i think its a roller mark? the second one (4 sharpcorners) looked nice but i can't stand the small scan!i would think with a 150 dollar opening bid w/ a bin of 200 you would pay the 75 cents to enlarge the scan? the bull will surface in a nice vending run and i hope it comes from florida and not 17689 von karmen ave! it looks like dsl has scored a nice run of 76's and 77's but there is something about the scans? the cards just don't look right to me
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#235400 - 05/05/04 04:49 PM Re:The [Re: jackstraw]
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ugliest card in the 76 set!just readded it, i forgot i had it and just found it doing some spring cleaning

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#235401 - 05/06/04 06:11 PM Re:closing [Re: jackstraw]
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the first 76 luzinski (gemints) had that same mark. i think its a roller mark? the second one (4 sharpcorners) looked nice but i can't stand the small scan!i would think with a 150 dollar opening bid w/ a bin of 200 you would pay the 75 cents to enlarge the scan? the bull will surface in a nice vending run and i hope it comes from florida and not 17689 von karmen ave! it looks like dsl has scored a nice run of 76's and 77's but there is something about the scans? the cards just don't look right to me




My Luzinski PSA 9 had the print mark a bit more to the left. Most Luzinski's I've seen have that flaw but not all. I'm sure one without the mark will eventually turn up in a 9. I concur re DSL. I've bought from them before and the cards always seem short. I sent them back for review and even crossed a few from SGC to PSA and they were never rejected by either grading company. They may be legit but I just prefer to stay away from short cards.

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#235402 - 05/07/04 05:25 AM Re:closing [Re: gemint]
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I also have gotten some "rattlers" from DSL -- they seemed very small and rattled around in their (PSA) holders. However, they crossed into SGC holders just fine. Mine were '68's...If I remember correctly, gemints were 69's...and now straw sees some strange '76s. I have heard that vending runs are often on the small side...but this seems strange to me that the cutting process would depend on the method of distribution.
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#235403 - 05/07/04 09:52 AM Re:closing [Re: srs1a]
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this seems strange to me that the cutting process would depend on the method of distribution

srs1a- I'm not 100% percent on this, but I believe vending product came from a different printing facility as compared to wax product. That could explain the slight variation in size between vending and wax.

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#235404 - 05/07/04 01:51 PM Re:well i got the cards [Re: Fabfrank]
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and well i am a little upset. i really hate dropping 150 dollars on cards that i don't think are mint. not one jumps out of the holder and screams mint! here they are.




probably the best card in the lot


not a bouffard 9



if i had all these cards raw. this would probably be the only one i would have submitted.



nicely centered but missing a piece of the right border?i get a patek rejected because of a corner that is perfectly sharp?

both the right and left borders have the 5:00 shadow.


not too bad .

i not sure what they saw on this one?


i know i sound like i am complaining and maybe i am! when i buy a mint card i guess i want a mint card? not a borderline 9 thats what they have the 92 grade for. see my solderholm and alou above! i think i need to take a break from this for a little while
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#235405 - 05/07/04 02:29 PM Re:well i got the cards [Re: jackstraw]
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#235406 - 05/07/04 05:35 PM Re:well i got the cards [Re: jackstraw]
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No way that Lolich is mint. Maybe the submitter got the benefit of the doubt.
I can't tell on all the cards but I trust you since you've seen
your share. I'll tell you what that Lolich RB looks weak from a corner end.
Could it be the scan? And I hate when cards get a 96 with a print
circle the size of a big booger - ie the Orioles checklist. But hey I see you
haven't bid so you are getting more picky or got the cards or are giving up.
I hope it is #1. You are better off trying to cross or waiting for a better batch.

On the Gai cards, I wouldn't cross the first one but without seeing the other
it I'll take Sgc's word that it won't make it.

All 9's aren't created equal.... Good luck and hang in there. It won't get any
easier though...

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#235407 - 05/07/04 06:31 PM Re:well i got the cards [Re: aconte]
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I have 17 cards in for grading right now. i am not quitting i might just tone it down for awhile. i am an addict and will be the rest of my life. i just hate paying mint prices for nm mt cards! it was one of the biggest reasons i wanted an sgc set because i was getting that type of [!@#%^&^] from psa! i want the card to jump out at me and scream mint i don't want it to say i was the 250th card graded today and we gave it the benefit of the doubt!
as far as the kendall is concerned that print line is on every card so a mint example doesn't exist! well i have never seen one without it. the patek is mint and i would/am going out on a limb to say it was graded correctly.
crashtestalex's last batch of 96's looked awful weak to me!

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#235408 - 05/09/04 11:52 PM Re:a couple of things [Re: jackstraw]
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got the cards ron thank you very much.
blambro must be submitting these cards because he jump up to over 16% on his 76 set? unless he has an sgc dealer that is feeding him this stuff, because they are not on ebay.
deadlyembrace? spent some of saturday talking to a nolan ryan collector. nice guy who is die hard.i pointed out your set to him. so if you get an email from him it is probably just to talk ryan and ryan cards.
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#235409 - 05/10/04 06:29 AM Re:a couple of things [Re: jackstraw]
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It is my understanding that Blambro does a bit of business off eBAY with a certain SGC dealer.
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#235410 - 05/17/04 06:40 PM Re:18 big ones [Re: srs1a]
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going to be added to my 78 set um buck a piece and 3 went to 3.50 and i bid on the robinson twice so 19 cards (all sgc 96) cost me 31.00 and 20.00 bucks for shipping? so much for the multiple wins discount
as usual will post pictures when they come in.btw no phills,no hof ers and the biggest name would be a toss up between dan driessen or bernie carbo?
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#235411 - 05/18/04 05:19 AM Re:18 big ones [Re: jackstraw]
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My original reaction to your post was going to be harsh. Fortunately I couldn't post last night so I didn't say something that I really shouldn't.

The bottom line here is that you are complaining about paying for $20 to ship 19 cards after only paying $31 for them to begin with. You need to show some compassion for the seller or you will soon find that NOBODY will be selling the cards in SGC slabs. This seller actually lost money on the auctions without giving consideration to his original cost for the cards. When you take into account the listing fees, supersize fee and Final Value Fee (and maybe a PayPal fee if you paid that way), the seller's $51 received from you is already gone. Add in the costs of grading and the seller was hosed so bad that he probably doesn't want to offer that product anymore.

Good luck with your set but have a little compassion for those supplying what you need.

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#235412 - 05/18/04 05:55 AM Re:18 big ones [Re: njdolphins]
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Straw,

Got to agree with NJ on this one. The seller made a load of errors especially
starting these auctions at a dollar. It is obvious the demand is very low
for these cards in Sgc slabs. I think a lot of the 70's commons can be hit
or miss on ebay. Was the $20 too high? Sure it was. But the wounds he
suffered selling these cards were so great that even the shipping costs
could not heal them.

I don't get the impression you minded that much from the charge of $20
since you did so well. But if so another way to look at it is do you think
you'll keep getting this lucky completing your 76 or 78 set in Sgc slab?
I doubt sellers like that bloodbath.

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#235413 - 05/18/04 02:46 PM Re:18 big ones [Re: aconte]
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geez guys i was only kidding. i know he took a bath. thats not my fault though,psa 9's from this set are hardly doing any better! i would have just hung on to them.
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#235414 - 05/18/04 05:13 PM Re:18 big ones [Re: jackstraw]
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geez guys i was only kidding.




cool....

I feel bad for the seller. He even supersized the cards and got crumbs...


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#235415 - 05/18/04 05:38 PM Re:18 big ones [Re: aconte]
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I feel bad for the seller. He even supersized the cards and got crumbs...




ok now i feel bad for him too.
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#235416 - 05/21/04 08:38 PM Re:18 big ones [Re: jackstraw]
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Dear God! If one ever needed 18 reasons to not have SGC holder your commons there they are! This also proves that many of PSA's registrants are loyal holder-buyers and little more. A buck??? Driessen is a fairly tough card to boot!
Nice pick-ups Straw...had I seen them your wallet would be a little lighter...
Absolutely sad...
NJD,
Why would you be harsh with John on this? A shipping gouge is a shipping gouge either way. If you make a mistake of submitting your commons to SGC and compound it by listing them at a buck, that doesn't give you the right to rape the smart buyer 12 extra bucks. $20 bucks to ship those cards is absurd. Period.

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#235417 - 05/21/04 08:42 PM Re:18 big ones [Re: downgoesfrazier]
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...the more I think about it, I didn't like the fact that my 77 Rose sold for 215 bucks and the buyer was a dead-beat ("SPORTSALLEY24" a.k.a "JohnnyCa$h" his actual name is John Squires--a total loser). Anyway, I re-listed it and it got killed at 120 bucks! I should have charged the winner an extra 30 bucks for shipping to ease my pain...I don't think so

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#235418 - 05/22/04 10:13 AM Re:18 big ones [Re: downgoesfrazier]
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in a round about way i was complaining about the 20 shipping fee. my opinion is that nobody feels sorry for me when i send in drop dead beauty's to get 92's and then buy 96's that my 92's blow away? nobody feels sorry for me when i buy gai 9.5's to have them rejected for 96's.nobody feels sorry for me when i put stuff on ebay ie. 76 winfield psa 9 which i paid 160 dollars for, to sell for 50 because i was honest in the description.

hows my carew and bench coming?
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#235419 - 05/22/04 07:27 PM Re:18 big ones [Re: jackstraw]
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John,
Absolutely. That $20 shipping charge would have fried my a$$. I truthfully haven't looked for the Bench or Carew at all. I have 3 Carews and two Benches that should make 9's, but they are not screamers. The OPC Carew I just had up was gorgeous. It sold for 172. I'll pounce on a nice JB or Rodney if I see 'em. My set cards are, of course, untouchable for now. Be well,
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#235420 - 05/23/04 05:13 PM Re:18 big ones [Re: downgoesfrazier]
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With all due respect Phil, I have issues with a couple of your points.

JB got 18 slabbed cards shipped for $20, so about a buck a piece. That is not exactly highway robbery. A dealer that I do a good bit of business with charges $2 for the first card, $1 for each additional. While it is true that I've never gotten 18 in one batch, I have gotten 8 and I didn't think that $9 was robbery. Your analogy of recouping a large chunk of cash on the shipping of a single card doesn't hold water.

On value of the cards...I think the seller made a huge mistake by listing them for a buck with no reserve, as NJD commented. He obviously had no idea of the market for these cards. As people like you and JB have taught me -- mint cards from the late 70's are very tough for a number of reasons. However, while tough, there aren't exactly a large number of people out looking for them. Ask yourself, if the seller had listed them with an opening bid of $5...would a good number of them ended up in straw's set? My bet is yes. Listing a mint common from the late 70's/early 80's in an SGC, GAI or PSA holder with a minimum bid of a buck is asking to take a bath...there just aren't that many people out trolling for them (my opinion).


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#235421 - 05/23/04 05:20 PM Re:18 big ones [Re: srs1a]
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If I were guessing would I be close with actual shipping costs somewhere
between $8 to $14? I don't think he robbed straw either. I can see both sides
point of view. The bottom line for me is the seller got bludgeoned (is that a
word?) in this sale. I'm not justifiying that as an excuse to overcharge for
shipping but if it happened in this case I'm not completely upset about it.

ok...?

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#235422 - 05/23/04 05:55 PM Re:18 big ones [Re: aconte]
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guys,
i am not mad about the 20$ shipping charge. as a matter of fact i am not mad about anything life is too short to be mad or miserable all the time. i surf ebay everyday and if i can score on somebody elses mistake then thats great for me! i think the seller did his best to recoupe his losses. i would imagine that he submitted these under the 5.00 special so to say he was "abused" is an understatement.i will be mad if i get them with an elastic band around them and 10 37cent stamps on top of the driessan i am done with this, i look at it like this i got 19 sgc 96's for 2.50 each.
i am awaiting a submission from sgc and should be done this week? i am hoping to add another 15 or so 96's to my 76 set?it won't bring me anywhere near blambro and his secret deals with some unknown sgc dealer but all in all i am happy with my progress!
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#235423 - 05/23/04 06:14 PM Re:1 MORE THING [Re: jackstraw]
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i would like to see sgc either add player sets to the registry or rework the "way i collect" part of the registry. one make it more visable on the registry home page and let us add and put cards in the order we want them veiwed. if i have 1 copy of every topps issue then i should be able to add them all in one set in order and not have to split them up by era's?
just my 2 cents
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#235424 - 05/25/04 09:25 PM Re:18 big ones [Re: srs1a]
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Scott,
I don't think we ever disagreed on the value of the cards. As for the shipping, you're entitled to your opinion. I shipped two 35-card lots of PSA graded cards for a TOTAL under $22. That's 70 cards. I simply do not like sellers making money on shipping charges. Plain and simple, ragardless of how uninformed they might be.
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#235425 - 05/28/04 05:04 PM Re:A Dozen 96's [Re: downgoesfrazier]
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17 card order 12 96's 4 92's and 1 88................
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41 tippy martinez 96
82 von joshua 96
90 sal bando 96
105 gary lavalle 92
167 freddie patek 96
198 al sb leader 92( i really looked this one over and thought i had a lock 96)
327 dave moates 96
366 bobby valentine 96
371 ellie hendricks 96
437 terry forster 96
461 al nl playoff 88
536 mike thompson 96
557 dan spillner 96
605 al downing 92(was in a psa 8 holder that i really thought was a 96, but will settle on the 92)
631 john lowenstein 96
631 atlanta braves 96

i am really happy with the outcome. i will post the pictures when they arrive.
i like making my own submissions and have done pretty well so far but i am running out of sharp raw cards. i am going to the tri-star show tomorrow so i hope to pick up a few raw cards to submit.
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#235426 - 05/29/04 09:13 AM Re:A Dozen 96's [Re: jackstraw]
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Very nice straw!

You seem to have a very good eye for sure. Looks close to a perfect score
except 1! SWEET...

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#235427 - 05/29/04 05:01 PM Re:A Dozen 96's [Re: aconte]
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here they are.











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#235428 - 06/04/04 08:43 PM Re:A Dozen 96's [Re: jackstraw]
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Straw,
Those are obnoxiously nice! The color really pops in that holder!
I just wanted to pop in and tell you the Luzinski news:
I sent the vending twin of my '77 9 in to PSA. It has slightly better reverse centering and was awarded a 10. 77 Bull PSA 10...BOO-YAH!!! I'm down to my last handful of cards (stars mainly) and this baby will be complete. I can then begin to dig for 76's
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#235429 - 06/05/04 08:17 AM Re:A Dozen 96's [Re: downgoesfrazier]
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I can then begin to dig for 76's





sweet, i can't wait! start me off with a lefty grove in an AGE 9.Apostle Grading is Enough
hey when are you going to open that set up for veiwing? i need something to look at daily!
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#235430 - 06/08/04 07:16 PM Re:A New 78 Set [Re: jackstraw]
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yikes i guess i am second on both my quests
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#235431 - 06/09/04 06:41 AM Re:A New 78 Set [Re: jackstraw]
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JS,

Do you know who that is?

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#235432 - 06/09/04 03:42 PM Re:A New 78 Set [Re: aconte]
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i sure don't? see this is what i like about PSA's fan base, if i was building a psa set the top couple of guys would be in contact with me! i like the competition and it makes it funner when you got someone that you know bidding and submitting cards! i am not sure were he was on those blue light specials that i picked up a couple of weeks back?
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#235433 - 06/09/04 04:37 PM Re:A New 78 Set [Re: jackstraw]
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JB, better talk to the guy with his goods in the closet -- before it is too late.
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#235434 - 06/09/04 06:21 PM Re:A New 78 Set [Re: srs1a]
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the funny thing is that when the goods were on ebay he wanted 13.00 each. i offered him 8 each but would have gone with a 10.00 counter offer. instead we get "keeping um in the closet set". 78 is the furthest thing from my mind and the only reason i have what i do is from ebay and remo. 76's will always be the everyday quest, it would be nice to have a fellow collector to rib,outbid and trade with!
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#235435 - 06/10/04 05:41 AM Re:A New 78 Set [Re: jackstraw]
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Careful what you wish for. Seems like it would be better NOT to have to bid against folks on ebay for your 76 set. Yeah, the competition and rivalry can be fun, but at what price?

I bid $50 for a Vikings 1969 Roy Winston SGC 96 card, a common. Someone outbid me on it & I wish they wouldn't have. I'm guessing it was a PSA collector looking to croos it over. Doubt it will be on the SGC registry.
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#235436 - 06/10/04 05:49 AM Re:A New 78 Set [Re: estang]
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JS,

I agree with estang. Be careful what you ask for. Your competiton could wind
up being a real d-head. You don't need that hassle for the 76 set. I actually
love that set from the 70's. The problem is the size of the set would make
me go insane. I couldn't handle doing a 660 card set especially starting at
zero. Sometimes I check ebay and look to see if anyone is selling a big
chunk in 9's. Then I say to myself what am I nuts! Anyhow, if I started that
set I would bid aggressively on some cards (if they were nice mint cards).
At times I'm the gotta have it at any cost kind of guy. If I did this set you
would probably write a bad post about me...



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#235437 - 06/10/04 03:47 PM Re:1976 TOPPS Rod Carew [Re: jackstraw]
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I bought this card. I just got it back from PSA and it graded 10. I kid you not.
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#235438 - 06/10/04 04:37 PM Re:1976 TOPPS Rod Carew [Re: bobbybakeriv]
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I bought this card. I just got it back from PSA and it graded 10. I kid you not.




thats great?was it in an sgc holder,bgs ?
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#235439 - 06/10/04 06:42 PM Re:1976 TOPPS Rod Carew [Re: jackstraw]
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I'd be seriously interested in purchasing this card. Please PM me with a scan. Thanks.
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#235440 - 06/10/04 07:13 PM Re:1976 TOPPS Rod Carew [Re: jackstraw]
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Jackstraw,

It was not even graded. I looked at the picture on eBay and felt the same as you did... it was well worth a chance. It turned out to be a terrific move. The winning bid was $4.25. I can't believe it. I also received word that a 77 Topps #580 Brett I submitted at the same time also graded a 10. Today was a good day. Make that a great day!

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#235441 - 06/10/04 07:18 PM Re:1976 TOPPS Rod Carew [Re: estang]
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I just received word via email about the grades for six cards I submitted recently (including the Carew). I don't have the card yet, but when I get it, I would be happy to send you a picture. You can check out Jackstraw's post on this thread (much earlier); he has a picture of the actual card as it was shown on eBay. Honestly, I really am not too interested in selling the card though. I am just very happy to have made such a great find. I paid a whopping $4.25 for it. Unbelievable. To top that off, I also received word that a 77 Topps #580 Brett also graded a PSA 10.

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#235442 - 06/17/04 05:01 PM Re:1976 TOPPS Rod Carew [Re: bobbybakeriv]
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i picked up the 76 strom and locklear sgc 96's from lee last night. i was blambroed on a few others. i have set my limit to 11.00 to 12.00 on the drop dead sure shot commons like strom and locklear. i will wait till more come around or try to find raw.
i am still waiting for the picture of the carew 10 that i told our friend estang to buy on ebay awhile back because i thought it looked real nice. i am wishing i took my own advice. that is if the story is true? 7 days from posting the message seems like along enough time to get from psa and scan?
anybody going to jim's party i hope you enjoy yourself and kind of wished i could go. i just have way too much on my plate right now and also got bumped to second shift for the next few years i like working union but if you don't have seniority it stinks!
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#235443 - 06/18/04 06:03 AM Re:1976 TOPPS Rod Carew [Re: jackstraw]
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Jackstraw,

It is 100% true. I don't have a scanner or digital camera though, so that causes some difficulty when attempting to scan. I will see if someone at work can scan it for me. The card is legit. Check out PSA's population report and you will now notice one 10 listed.

Below is my submission status page from PSA. (Of course, I realize this could be completely fabricated by just about anyone).

LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 11899394 1975 TOPPS MINI 1 '74 HIGHLIGHTS HANK AARON 8
2 11899395 1975 TOPPS 320 PETE ROSE N/A 8
2 11899396 1975 TOPPS 320 PETE ROSE N/A 8
3 11899397 1976 TOPPS 400 ROD CAREW N/A 10
4 11899398 1977 TOPPS 580 GEORGE BRETT A.L. ALL-STARS 10
5 11899399 1977 TOPPS 30 GREG LUZINSKI N/A 9

Date Received: 06/04/2004
Date of Grades Posted: 06/10/2004
Date Shipped: 06/10/2004




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#235444 - 06/18/04 06:32 AM Re:1976 TOPPS Rod Carew [Re: bobbybakeriv]
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Jackstraw,

It is 100% true. I don't have a scanner or digital camera though, so that causes some difficulty when attempting to scan. I will see if someone at work can scan it for me. The card is legit. Check out PSA's population report and you will now notice one 10 listed.

Below is my submission status page from PSA. (Of course, I realize this could be completely fabricated by just about anyone).

LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 11899394 1975 TOPPS MINI 1 '74 HIGHLIGHTS HANK AARON 8
2 11899395 1975 TOPPS 320 PETE ROSE N/A 8
2 11899396 1975 TOPPS 320 PETE ROSE N/A 8
3 11899397 1976 TOPPS 400 ROD CAREW N/A 10
4 11899398 1977 TOPPS 580 GEORGE BRETT A.L. ALL-STARS 10
5 11899399 1977 TOPPS 30 GREG LUZINSKI N/A 9

Date Received: 06/04/2004
Date of Grades Posted: 06/10/2004
Date Shipped: 06/10/2004







BobbyBakerIV:

What a great pull on the Brett 10 - you should be proud to have such a great card in your collection.

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#235445 - 06/18/04 06:36 AM Re:1976 TOPPS Rod Carew [Re: buttermarc]
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Thanks MS. Needless to say, I was very very happy with that result. That is one of my favorite all-time cards.
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#235446 - 06/18/04 02:30 PM Re:1976 TOPPS Rod Carew [Re: bobbybakeriv]
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thats great bobby
i hope you hang on to it or sell it to estang. as far as the 77 brett that is one of my favorites too.
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#235447 - 06/18/04 05:21 PM Re:1976 TOPPS Rod Carew [Re: jackstraw]
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Thank you Jackstraw. I am not planning on selling either card. I will try to get it scanned for your viewing pleasure sometime next week. I have never posted a scan on this board before though, so wish me luck.
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#235448 - 06/26/04 06:03 PM Re:1976 TOPPS Rod Carew [Re: bobbybakeriv]
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well here it is! very nice and i want it!

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#235449 - 06/27/04 09:56 AM Re:1976 TOPPS Rod Carew [Re: jackstraw]
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Shoot! I must have missed Jackstraw's post about the ebay auction, as I would have surely placed a bid on this and taken my chances. Good to know it is going to someone who will treasure it in their personal collection.
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#235450 - 06/29/04 04:14 PM Re:1976 TOPPS Rod Carew [Re: estang]
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Thanks Erik for the sentiments and thank you Jackstraw for posting the scan. Now, if only I could get my hands on some more just like this one....
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#235451 - 06/29/04 07:21 PM Re:1976 TOPPS Rod Carew [Re: bobbybakeriv]
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Bobby,

A couple of things that I noticed from the enlarged scan. The borders don't appear to be a bright white nor does the holder seem to be scratch free. Perhaps these are scanner imperfections as opposed to what you have in your possession.

As you know by now, had I bought this it would be residing in a BVG holder -- as that is where my Topps Carew (Twins only) run resides. A BVG 9.5 has been offered on ebay and I forgot the price it received, but it was outside of my range -- likely in the $250 to $500 area. I would have paid a $100 if I know what you were getting. You gotta love ebay --- the world's greatest/largest flea market -- a place where things like this are still possible. Could you send me the link to the auction --- I'd like to see who the seller was and track his/her auctions.
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#235452 - 06/30/04 06:24 AM Re:1976 TOPPS Rod Carew [Re: jackstraw]
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estang i think you might want to check this one out and take a 10 dollar chance on it. LOOKS NICE

its almost worth a chance with that centering and color i would go for it.
anybody else have any advice?






here is the post i made erik, if the link in the quote doesn't work here is a link to the card and you know how to do the rest.
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#235453 - 06/30/04 06:53 AM Re:1976 TOPPS Rod Carew [Re: estang]
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Must be the scan because the card is rock-solid. The borders are perfect. I believe jackstraw answered your other question. Good luck!
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#235454 - 08/24/04 06:44 AM Re:couple of additions [Re: bobbybakeriv]
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well it has been awhile since i posted? i have kind been hooked on nolan ryan and other players such a griffey jr. he will always be a favorite collect for me. i just love the way he plays the game. it is alot less stress and money collecting players then a complete set. i have not given up collecting the 76 set i just think i got burnt out too fast. i have added some cards to the way i collect set including a beautiful 79 hostess ryan and some nice griffeys take a look.
d-emb have you made any ryan sub's yet? i am looking forward to grabbing some 96's from you.
80 to present hof'ers and stars

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#235455 - 03/13/05 04:31 PM Re:1976 Topps Lou Brock [Re: jackstraw]
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I kind of have the 76 bug again? Picked up this brock that looks sweet. I kind of over paided for it but I couldn't pass up one of my favorite cards of all time!
76 Brock
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#235456 - 03/14/05 09:27 AM Re:1976 Topps Lou Brock [Re: jackstraw]
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So John, if you are catching the bug again, I might be able to help you out!
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#235457 - 03/23/05 07:06 AM Re:1976 Topps Joe Morgan [Re: srs1a]
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well my star power is starting to pick up
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#235458 - 08/06/05 05:57 AM Re:I think I am going for it? [Re: jackstraw]
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Well I just checked my 76 set andl I just might go for it? If SGC goes with a 4 or 5 dollar special?
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#235459 - 08/06/05 04:28 PM Re:I think I am going for it? [Re: jackstraw]
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The 1976 and 1977 are the best designed topps sets of the 70's imo. However, although not an attractive design, the 1973 topps set in SGC is something I've been considering for a while now. The action shots and photography from that set is the best imo (one of the reasons I am considering pursuing this set).
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#235460 - 08/06/05 07:56 PM Re:I think I am going for it? [Re: grilloj39]
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The 1976 and 1977 are the best designed topps sets of the 70's imo. However, although not an attractive design, the 1973 topps set in SGC is something I've been considering for a while now. The action shots and photography from that set is the best imo (one of the reasons I am considering pursuing this set).




Grillo, good to see you post again. If you are already considering a 73 set, it is a great time to start with the cash prizes ($2,000 for first, $1,000 for second and $500 for third).
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#235461 - 08/07/05 07:34 AM Re:I think I am going for it? [Re: grilloj39]
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Jackstraw> I have a decent amount of nice raw. What grade are you looking for on your set?

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#235462 - 08/07/05 01:29 PM Re:I think I am going for it? [Re: Beavis]
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I am looking for centering first than nm mt to mint second. LMK what you have.
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#235463 - 08/07/05 06:29 PM Re:I think I am going for it? [Re: jackstraw]
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John> Please e-mail me and we can go over details. I think I can help.
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#235464 - 08/11/05 06:42 AM Re:Thanks [Re: Beavis]
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Well it has been interesting few days. I manage to buy back about 100 of my SGC 96's for the same price I sold them for ! Thank you Scott and Jay(from the 76 PSA Registry) . I also managed to pick out about 100 nm mt to mint cards from my raw set and bought about 175 nm mt cards from Mike Castaldi, thank you Mike. I also added to my set about 20 SGC 92's that I had laying around . It is possible that I might just have this half way done by Oct. 1st? That leaves me with about 6 months to get the last 330 cards into SGC to claim my prize . I just hope I don't wake a sleeping giant(BLAMBRO)??? Is this gonna be a one time thing or is it going to be yearly ? I have to say I was pretty burned out but this challenge has renewed my interest and it has been a fun couple of weeks! Thanks SGC I can't promise I won't complain about the amount of time it takes to get my cards back
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#235465 - 08/29/05 07:53 PM Re:I am pretty impressed! [Re: jackstraw]
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11 Days I am very pleased with that especially on a 5.00 special! One surprise or what did I miss but other than that But still waiting on a 98 someday?
Aaron RB 96!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lopes RB 96
Dodgers Team 96
Bell father and son 92
NL Bat Ldr 92
NL RBI Ldr 96
NL SB Ldr 96
NL Vic Ldr 80
Expos 96
Gehrig 96
Wagner 96
Cobb 92
Ruth 92
Williams 96
Cochrene 96
Fingers 92
Stanley 92
Hernandez 96
Ellis 96
White Sox 96
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#235466 - 08/30/05 08:33 AM Re:I am pretty impressed! [Re: jackstraw]
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Straw,

Not bad at all.

In case you get the itch to sell those All-Time Great cards from 76 email me
first before ebay. I don't want to give you bad karma but in case you get tired
of the chase let me know on those....heehee....

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#235467 - 08/30/05 02:37 PM Re:I am pretty impressed! [Re: aconte]
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Jackstraw> How'd the stuff I sent you do?

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#235468 - 08/30/05 07:06 PM Re:I am pretty impressed! [Re: Beavis]
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Not sure yet I have another 60 to send in probably 20 of yours and then another 60 maybe right before the end on September which another 30 are yours. I will let you know how they did. I have been looking at the Yaz 24 7 and It just might 96? If thats the case I would be more than happy with the rest being 88's.A couple of others that you sent me that have been a pain for me to get are the Ramon Hernandez and Doug Radar #44 both look like good shots at 92's?
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#235469 - 08/30/05 07:11 PM Re:I am pretty impressed! [Re: jackstraw]
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I will let you know? The old car that I am driving untill the junk yard doesn't want it cost me a 60 card submission
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#235470 - 08/30/05 07:53 PM Re:I am pretty impressed! [Re: jackstraw]
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Jack> The Yaz is really nice and has a shot at a 96, but I wouldn't be surprised if centering keeps it in a 92. Still has great eye appeal.

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#235471 - 09/15/05 05:14 PM Re:I am pretty impressed! [Re: Beavis]
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John,

I see one calling your name.

76 Palmer 96
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#235472 - 09/16/05 05:49 AM Re:I have learned my lesson [Re: FYS]
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When I am buying the SGC 96's they usually go for around 60 or 70 dollars but when I am selling I get 10 to 20 dollars? Sorry once this hit 25.00 I took it off my watch list! Lets turn back the clock for a minute. Of course this is before the whole registry reward program. 76 Brock SGC 96 I paid 70 dollars for it, 2 months later I sell it for 10.00? 76 Morgan SGC 96 paid almost 80 dollars for it, 2 months later I sell it for 18.00 ?76 Lynn SGC 96 (my own submission) Lee sells for somewhere around 60.00 , 2 months later I sell mine for 12.00? 76 Wagner SGC 96 (my own submission) I get 11.00 for it? I am not in this for the profit or money just for the fun of finding cards that I collected as a kid in 1976. We are a single income family with 3 kids so you can imagine how tight money is? I am pretty much done on ebay for now because it just seems like I get whacked when its something I want but when I go to sell(usually more often I would like to) so I can stay afloat here ,I can't get a sniff of some really nice cards! Take a look a my Nolan Ryans I have on Ebay right now! I got one bid and a couple of watchers? But if I was buying/watching/looking or need these all would have 2 or 3 bids on them by now ! I have left way too much money on the table on stuff that really doesn't even deserve to see a CS1 let alone a grading room !!!
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#235473 - 09/16/05 04:15 PM Re:I have learned my lesson [Re: jackstraw]
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JB,

I hear you on the buy high, sell low stuff. I recently sold a SGC 96 Earl Campbell rookie for about $80 on eBay. It about made me cry. I have also received way more than I should at times. So I guess it all evens out on the selling end, but I never seem to be able to buy really cheap.

I do not know what Lee or SCGaynor or MintXpress would charge for a consignment, but it might be a good idea to consign with them. They should have a relatively decent following i.e. no great deals.
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#235474 - 09/16/05 04:31 PM Re:I have learned my lesson [Re: jackstraw]
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JB,

This one is actually palatable.

76 K. Hernandez SGC 96
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#235475 - 10/26/05 06:57 AM Re:TAT ? [Re: FYS]
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Anybody have an turnaround times to report? I have a small submission in and its on day 18. I was hoping to get the grades by this weekend but it looks like SGC is swamped. I hope this is an indication of more stuff going to ebay because I am sick and tired of looking at PSA 9's and wondering if they will cross to an SGC 96, then getting them and being disappointed. I did manage to pick a Winfield in a PSA 9 that is probably the best I have ever seen on that card. Not a print spot , just about perfect centering and a clean and centered back. There is two small chips along the border but shouldn't keep out of a 96?


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#235476 - 10/26/05 07:21 AM Re:TAT ? [Re: jackstraw]
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John, I just got one back...10 day submission, shipped on day 11. I talked with Scott H. and he said that they were pretty buried.
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#235477 - 10/26/05 07:38 AM Re:TAT ? [Re: srs1a]
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Well I figured they were buried. Todays my birthday so if anyone at SGC is wanting to give me a present I get home from work at 9:15 and usually check the submission status at 9:17
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#235478 - 10/26/05 08:34 AM Re:TAT ? [Re: jackstraw]
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Happy Birthday Strawman!

Nice Winfield card. From the scan it looks perfect - centering, corners, and
color look top notch.

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#235479 - 10/26/05 06:41 PM Re:TAT ? [Re: aconte]
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Thanks Tony, the Winfield is by far the nicest I have ever handled. I have handled quite a few and usually they have smudge and print problems galore! This was kind of a Birthday present to myself
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#235480 - 10/26/05 10:32 PM Re:TAT ? [Re: jackstraw]
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If there are border chips, I doubt you'll see a 96, imho.
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#235481 - 10/27/05 05:06 AM Re:TAT ? [Re: Vintagedeputy]
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I can show you 25 cards from my 76 set with the 96 that have border chips. If SGC doesn't think its mint then I guess I will just keep it in PSA . It wouldn't bother me in the least to have it back because I don't see me finishing this set by the deadline for the prize. I just don't have enough quality raw left and certain cards like the Bonds RB, Lolich RB, Stennett RB,Umbarger,Fuentas,Lindblad,Zisk and Wockenfuss that I want in 92 or 96 are not available to me and thats just the first 15 cards of the set?
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#235482 - 10/27/05 09:57 AM Re:TAT ? [Re: jackstraw]
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About a year ago an Sgc dealer was selling a bunch of Sgc 96 1976 Topps that
I thought had lots of border chips and even average centering. So IMHO to say
the card won't cross if it has border chips is not correct. Even though the scan
doesn't tell the whole story I think that scan is better than some of the 96's I've
seen. And I agree with John that border chips should not prevent the card from
being a 96 (unless there are other problems).

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#235483 - 10/27/05 06:26 PM Re:Is everyone sitting down? [Re: aconte]
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Total Cards Received Shipped
10 10/3/2005 10/27/2005
* Shipped via IN, Tracking # VB042828314


Card ID Player Name SGC Grade
1 TOM SEAVER 96
2 LOU BROCK 96
3 GEORGE BRETT 84
4 CESAR GERONIMO 96
5 DAVE CONCEPCION 96
6 FRED LYNN 96
7 CARL YASTRZEMSKI 96
8 NOLAN RYAN 88
9 JIM KAAT 96
10 LARRY BOWA 96
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#235484 - 10/27/05 06:49 PM Re:Is everyone sitting down? [Re: jackstraw]
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Happy Birthday John!

Brett is a brutal card - I know the one you submitted must have been nice...just says how hard the card really is.

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#235485 - 10/27/05 07:03 PM Re:Is everyone sitting down? [Re: srs1a]
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I bought it raw from a scan. It is smack dab centered so I took a chance and it sort of paid off but not quite as much as I would have liked. It is a very tough card and I have never seen a mint copy... They have to be out there so hopefully someone will crack a case and score a dozen or so.
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#235486 - 10/28/05 11:05 AM Re:Is everyone sitting down? [Re: jackstraw]
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NICE!

any scans coming?

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#235487 - 10/28/05 11:58 AM Re:Is everyone sitting down? [Re: aconte]
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Well, there is a GEM MINT copy in eBAY right now....but something tells me that Straw's card has this one beat!




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#235488 - 10/28/05 06:44 PM Re:Is everyone sitting down? [Re: srs1a]
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When I get the cards tomorrow I will scan them and show off the latest. I am still waiting for the 98 or a 100% 96 submission. Someday I will score the elusive 98 , but it will be Biff Pocaroba and not Tom Seaver
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#235489 - 10/29/05 06:22 AM Re:Is everyone sitting down? [Re: jackstraw]
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John,

I was checking out your set on the registry. It was great to look at the scans.
I think the 76 set is one of my favorites. It was the one set (along with 75,77,78)
that I collected pack by pack with my brother. Your set brings back good
memories. I went to look at card #283 Merv Rettenmund. Who is he? I only
remember he was one of my hardest cards to get from that year. Him and
Mike Hargrove were tough (#485). When I looked at your scan I thought no
wonder I could not find that card!

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#235490 - 10/29/05 06:24 PM Re:Is everyone sitting down? [Re: aconte]
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John, I wouldn't hold your breath on the 98's. I recently looked at all the 68s that I had submitted and it was a grim summary -- 771 cards submitted and only 2 98's.

I also researched the SGC pop reports for the '68 set....almost 11,000 cards submitted and 87 total 98's! Brutal, absolutely brutal. After doing this, I was happy to have 2.

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#235491 - 11/01/05 06:23 AM Re:George Brett [Re: srs1a]
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George Brett SGC 84

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#235492 - 11/02/05 03:58 AM Re:George Brett [Re: jackstraw]
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That card sure looks nicer than an 84...wonder what stopped it from going higher?
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#235493 - 11/02/05 06:04 PM Re:George Brett [Re: Vintagedeputy]
aconte
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Straw or other 76 Experts,

Did the 76's offered by chiroman on ebay tonight finish for decent prices? I don't
follow the market but John you got me looking at these cards and remembering
fun times. I thought these would go cheaper or at least I was under that
impression. There was a Psa 9 1976 Carter sold by a 'fsmith' or something
like that. It sold for around $24 while the Sgc 96 was $32 with a few minutes
to go. I was surprised.

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#235494 - 11/02/05 06:32 PM Re:George Brett [Re: aconte]
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Bid more or post more... tough one...


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John,

Nice pick-up on the Jackson. I bid on the Carter since it looked so nice. I
think the prices on these were great. I compared them all to Psa 9 latest results.
Other than Jackson (where a Psa 9 closes tomorrow) the Sgc prices smoked
all the Psa 9 prices. However, looking at the Psa 9 that closed I found that
the Psa card was not even close to as nice as the 'chiroman' 96.

Tony
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#235495 - 11/02/05 06:56 PM Re:George Brett [Re: aconte]
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Tony
I think chiroman did very well on what he had to offer! The Randolph doesn't really come up that often in mint shape but the Carter,Palmer and Robinson are on ebay all the time so he did well! I didn't see what the Brock ended at because I have that one? I had snipes in on 5 cards and 3 didn't fire.The Jackson does look a lot better than the PSA 9 on ebay right now? I put the Jackson in the top 10 cards in the set for toughness and price in mint condition.
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#235496 - 11/09/05 05:41 PM Re:George Brett [Re: jackstraw]
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Thats a nice Brett. It must have hidden flaws to grade that low.
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#235497 - 11/09/05 08:38 PM Re:George Brett [Re: Dungeon]
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For the 76 Collectors, and with thanks to Stanthemanfan, I've got a 76 Maximino Leon coming back in my latest sub graded SCG 96, the only one in the population.
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#2015901 - 02/26/13 05:03 PM Re:George Brett [Re: Vintagedeputy]
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Wow what a stroll down memory lane. I am thinking about doing this set again..
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