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#236296 - 10/13/03 12:39 PM Ridiculous Topps Football 2003 player selection
estang
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As many of you know, I'm a Vikings & Twins collector. I purchase a Topps factory and applicable traded base set each year.

I just reviewed the Vikings Topps 2003 player selection at topps.com and I was amused and a bit upset at the player selection

MINNESOTA VIKINGS

MOE, WILLIAMS 51 (#1 Full-back option & special teamer)
BYRON, CHAMBERLAIN 10 (off team due to over eating after 4 game suspension issued in mid-summer for taking banned substance...shouldn't have issued a card for him)
DAUNTE, CULPEPPER 82 (#1 QB...obvious selection)
JIM, KLEINSASSER 96 (#1 Tight End...good selection)
D'WAYNE, BATES 137 (#2 receiver...good selection)
MICHAEL, BENNETT 153 (#1 RB hurt, good selection)
CHRIS, WALSH 192 (never invited to 2003 camp...not on team...poor selection)
DERRICK, ALEXANDER 223 (never invited to 03 camp...not on team...poor)
RANDY, MOSS 253 (#1 WR)
KEENAN, HOWRY 312 (ummm...this guy doesn't play...rookie)
KEVIN, WILLIAMS 359 (#1 draft selection)
NATE, BURLESON 363 (#3 draft selection...good)
ONTERRIO, SMITH 336 (#4 draft selection...good)

Not one offensive lineman, including pro-bowler Matt Birk or Bryant McKinnie. Not one starting defensive player, with the exception of rookie Kevin Williams. Not even pro-bowler Chris Hovan!

Then they create these quasi-trade cards that sport logos of 2 teams. For example, QB Todd Bouman went to the Saints from the Vikings in the off-season. Why do this for a back-up QB, let alone anyone.

Topps should forget about this Topps Total brand and put the effort into their base set.

Currently their base set is only 385 cards. Why not create two series of Topps base football that would comprise about 800 to 850 cards. They could then get the starters at most offensive/defensive position, known punters/kickers and even a coach or team stat/schedule result card. This way they could forget about these quasi-trade cards depeciting 2 team logos and reduce the number of brands that they have proliferated into an over-saturated card market.

Player representation on football has been a problem throughout the majority of Topps involvement. Exceptions have occurred and are sprinkled from mid-70s to early 90s.

I've sent my resume' to Topps and I'm awaiting a reply I'd like to start with being their Football brand manager

That makes 2 Modern Day rant posts of the month for me...


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#236297 - 10/13/03 01:49 PM Re: Ridiculous Topps Football 2003 player selection [Re: estang]
aconte
Bid more or post more... tough one...


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Topps just wants to add the stars and rookies to help make the set sell.
I don't understand the poor selection of some players you mentioned
but I can see why you don't see many lineman, kickers, or punters.

Just curious though, did David Akers maker it - Eagles Pro-Ball Kicker.

aconte
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#236298 - 10/13/03 01:55 PM Re: Ridiculous Topps Football 2003 player selection [Re: aconte]
estang
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Aconte,

Nope. Here's the Eagles list:

PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
TODD, PINKSTON 201
A.J., FEELEY 246
CHAD, LEWIS 138
DUCE, STALEY 183
ANTONIO, FREEMAN 177
BRIAN, DAWKINS 52
JAMES, THRASH 36
DONOVAN, McNABB 75
BRIAN, WESTBROOK 116
DONOVAN, McNABB 301
JEROME, McDOUGLE 323
L.J., SMITH 327
BILLY, McMULLEN 346

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#236299 - 10/13/03 08:43 PM Re: Ridiculous Topps Football 2003 player selection [Re: estang]
aconte
Bid more or post more... tough one...


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Thanks for the info. Not really surprised with the list after reading yours.
They have the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks and the third string QB - Feeley.
Missing are guys like Troy Vincent, Bobby Taylor, and Akers. Hey at
least they put Dawkins in.

The way McNabb is playing he should only have one card.

aconte
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#236300 - 03/15/04 11:33 AM Re: Ridiculous Topps Football 2003 player selection [Re: aconte]
Bruceswar
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I think they want to hold Bobby Taylor and Troy Vincent ... to see if they get traded or free agent signing... etc
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