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#249292 - 10/30/03 09:54 PM PSA Aggressively Deleting Threads
botn
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Over the past few days numerous threads have been deleted. I suppose that CU is attempting to regain control of the board by censoring certain topics and discussions. If the thread is filled with personal attacks then I have no problem with it but many that were removed were dealing with collectors concerns about CU business practices.

Don't know about you but I find this approach indicative of the problem that exists at CU/PSA.

Greg

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#249293 - 10/31/03 04:57 AM Re: PSA Aggressively Deleting Threads [Re: botn]
srs1a
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I also found this a bit odd. The one that I thought was the strangest was where certain board members were screaming about "naming names"....if people knew which dealers were doctoring cards, please tell the rest of the folks who they were. Well, as soon as a few names started popping up, the thread went AWOL. Also odd was the one where botn threw out an olive branch to the CU board -- mysteriously deleted, as well. Strange indeed.
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#249294 - 10/31/03 04:58 AM Re: PSA Aggressively Deleting Threads [Re: botn]
grilloj39
I am gonna miss that car.


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I agree...a harmless post about the new GAI website being up was deleted twice. Not a single anti-PSA, anti-CU, anti-Joe comment on the thread, yet it was deleted.

I thought the more classy thing to do would have been to leave the thread up...but lately, the folks at PSA haven't showed much class.

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#249295 - 10/31/03 05:36 AM Re: PSA Aggressively Deleting Threads [Re: grilloj39]
aconte
Bid more or post more... tough one...


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Grillo,

I was wondering what happened to the thread on the Gai website.
I was looking for it this morning to check out the site since I was
tied up yesterday. Can we get a link here? If it is ok I'd just like
to see what Gai's site looks like.

Was there something else wrong with that thread? I hate when threads
get deleted on any boards unless it really is warranted. I guess it is
ok to talk about Espn but not another sportscard/memorabilia competitor
(even if it is harmless) on the Psa sportscard/memorabilia forum. What a joke!
Some of the guys at Psa need to get a clue.

aconte
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#249296 - 10/31/03 05:39 AM Re: PSA Aggressively Deleting Threads [Re: aconte]
grilloj39
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Link to GAI website

Aconte...I read and re-read that thread and it was just an announcement about the website being up...with comments as "it's an improvement" "still haven't setup the registry" but that was it. I have posted a thread on the PSA board about my concerns with this.


Edited by grilloj39 (10/31/03 05:43 AM)
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#249297 - 10/31/03 07:04 AM Re: PSA Aggressively Deleting Threads [Re: grilloj39]
Davalillo1
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I like it that now I do not or will not get attacked every post I put up.

However, all controversy will have been eliminated from the board. This seems to be what at least a significant minority of posters want and it is obviously what psa wants. Who knows--perhaps more will post here.

Regardless, information I find out regarding dealer and grading practices will only be discussed privately with those interested from now on--I like serious discussions and debate but I do not like personal attacks.

Jim


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#249298 - 10/31/03 07:40 AM Re: PSA Aggressively Deleting Threads [Re: Davalillo1]
Basilone
If I just sell the car, I can up my bid...


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I guess I was away from the computer when someone was naming names. Anyways...if anyone wants to send me a private message with the details..feel free to do so.

Best-

John

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#249299 - 10/31/03 08:50 AM Re: PSA Aggressively Deleting Threads [Re: Basilone]
aconte
Bid more or post more... tough one...


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Grillo,

Thanks for the link. The site is decent. I see they will be doing pack grading
at the next Ft. Washington show. I may actually use this and get my first
collectible that is Gai graded. Stay tuned...

I also saw your thread about deleting posts/threads. I see you got an answer
too!

aconte
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#249300 - 10/31/03 12:39 PM Re: PSA Aggressively Deleting Threads [Re: aconte]
botn
I am gonna miss that car.


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CU has every right to not host posts that are merely attacking their company. They have been very patient over the last couple of years to allow users to be extremely critical of them. However, given their current position of not providing full disclosure, I have real trouble with this additional censorship.

Maybe it is time for a tell all.

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#249301 - 10/31/03 03:52 PM Re: PSA Aggressively Deleting Threads [Re: aconte]
dbj77
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Tony,
Are you gonna get your redman box graded? Is that what you were hinting to or something else?


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#249302 - 10/31/03 04:57 PM Re: PSA Aggressively Deleting Threads [Re: dbj77]
srs1a
Old, dense-headed hammers are cool. Best nail pounders.


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Hey grillo, your posts keep disappearing from the other board -- what's the deal?
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#249303 - 10/31/03 06:58 PM Re: PSA Aggressively Deleting Threads [Re: dbj77]
aconte
Bid more or post more... tough one...


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Doug,

Yes. I think I'm going to get that pack graded. I believe it would look nice.
I would not care about the grade just the overall look of authenticity.
Not sure though if I want to spend the few bucks just for a plastic holder
though.

aconte
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#249304 - 10/31/03 08:59 PM Re: PSA Aggressively Deleting Threads [Re: aconte]
grilloj39
I am gonna miss that car.


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srs1a...I have no reason why my posts keep getting deleted. I am going to send an e-mail to Mr Orlando asking why. I think everyone realizes my posts are non-confrontational. If it's just because I am a GAI customer, then I think I deserve an explanation from Mr Orlando.

However, I will not lose any sleep over it. But if this is the type of company PSA has become, well let me say that I feel extra, extra sure that switching over to GAI was the right move.

EDITED: (added). I will no longer post on a board (The PSA board) that doesn't allow a discussion about card collecting or card grading, especially when one abides by the rules of the forum. It's ridiculous for PSA to act like a "child" who takes their ball and goes home. I've decided not to e-mail Mr Orlando because now I don't care. I'll stick to the SGC forum and other forums as well. At least I know if I stick to the rules I won't get my thoughts/posts deleted for no apparent reason.


Edited by grilloj39 (10/31/03 09:13 PM)
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#249305 - 10/31/03 10:07 PM Re: PSA Aggressively Deleting Threads [Re: grilloj39]
botn
I am gonna miss that car.


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grilloj39,

It was Joe himself that tossed me off of the site when I had voiced an opinion about some PSA graded cards. His underlying motivation was because I was a PSA Authorized Dealer who was supportive of GAI and SGC. I think that the environment over there at PSA is such that if Joe answers you it will be phrased in a way that says very little.

CU wants to reclaim their boards and keep out anything that is going to be anti-PSA or in favor of any other grading service.

Greg


Edited by botn (10/31/03 10:29 PM)

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#249306 - 11/01/03 08:03 AM Re: PSA Aggressively Deleting Threads [Re: botn]
grilloj39
I am gonna miss that car.


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botn...that's fine with me. I give credit to SGC for allowing more of a "open" forum and I hope GAI does the same when their message boards start up as well.

I guess that's why I didn't e-mail Joe Orlando because I already knew the response I would have received. In putting myself in Joe's shoes, I understand to a degree. But I think he is being a little over-reactionary as of late. If I was a PSA customer, I wouldn't like the direction the company was heading.
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#249307 - 11/01/03 08:26 AM Re: PSA Aggressively Deleting Threads [Re: grilloj39]
aconte
Bid more or post more... tough one...


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grillo,

Your post on the Psa board asking why threads were getting deleted went
unanswered for some time before being removed. My guess is your
message to Joe O. would receive either no response or something in
the nature. Psa grades over 100,000 cards each month. There boards
are for use by Psa collectors looking to receive information about Psa
and card collecting. We won't tolerate any anti-Psa remarks. Afterall,
Psa is the industry leader and grades 100,000 cards a month. Not
bad huh?

Anyhow, who cares? Lets get back to talking about this cool hobby!

Anyone see the redman pack on ebay up to a nice grand.
It's got a 53 Reese on it.

aconte
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