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#250358 - 11/01/03 08:30 AM 1953 Red Man Tobacco Pack on Ebay
aconte
Bid more or post more... tough one...


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I thought this was an item some might like to check out. They rarely come
up for sale anymore. I'm aware of 3-4 that have been on ebay in the last
4 years. This looks pretty nice:

53 Red Man Pack

aconte
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#250359 - 11/01/03 08:49 AM Re: 1953 Red Man Tobacco Pack on Ebay [Re: aconte]
remo
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Registered: 08/29/02
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Looks really nice you going to take a shot at it?
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#250360 - 11/01/03 01:12 PM Re: 1953 Red Man Tobacco Pack on Ebay [Re: remo]
srs1a
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Tony, now that's a pack!

I found the bid history interesting....especially where mrredman left the bidding. I suppose he already has a few similar items in his collection.


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#250361 - 11/01/03 01:46 PM Re: 1953 Red Man Tobacco Pack on Ebay [Re: aconte]
dbj77
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Tony,
Do you know this seller? I wonder if his lack of feedback will hurt the bidding......
It sure is a nice piece though.

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#250362 - 11/01/03 09:27 PM Re: 1953 Red Man Tobacco Pack on Ebay [Re: aconte]
aconte
Bid more or post more... tough one...


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I took a pass on that pack. Too pricey for me. I think these can go from
$500-$1500 depending on the pack condition. I actually got a pack with
a 53 Reese. It is my only pack. I got it off ebay a couple years ago
off a zero feedback seller who misclassified the item where another
potential bidder, who did not snipe, emailed me to tell me congrats
and that he actually fell asleep and took a nap. The auction ended
in the middle of a week day. Basically, the stars were lined up just
right for me to steal my pack.

Mrredman was just bottom feeding trying to add to his many packs!

And dbj77 the low feedback and reserve could of hurt the final price.

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#250363 - 11/02/03 06:19 AM Re: 1953 Red Man Tobacco Pack on Ebay [Re: aconte]
vayank
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Registered: 04/13/02
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It looks like the seller misspelled Tobacco. Maybe that cut down on hits by potential buyers using that word as a search term.
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#250364 - 11/14/03 07:19 AM Re: 1953 Red Man Tobacco Pack on Ebay [Re: srs1a]
mrredman
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Greetings. I haven't had much of a chance to get onto the SGC message board lately, but just got through reviewing some of the recent posts.

I too was very intrigued by the 1953 Red Man tobacco pack that was recently posted on eBay. Several years ago, you could find 3-4 packs at each of the Nationals, but the packs all but dried up about 7 years ago. While I do have 9 unopened Red Man packs, I'm always interested to add additional packs to my collection. The most I have ever paid for a pack was $740 and that was for my 1955 Pee Wee Reese pack (see attached photo) which is in truly mint condition.

Though I placed an early and low bid for the pack, my intent was to place a late bid at $750. Much to my surprise and amazement, the pack quickly rose to over $1000. Once the bidding on any item gets to that point, I always am interested in the seller's eBay history and feedback record. I became somewhat concerned that the seller did not have much of a history. I tried to email the seller and continually got an error message back from eBay that my message could not be received. I became skeptical and backed away from bidding any further.

Once the auction was over, I emailed the top two bidders, offering to sell them some of my unopened Red Man packs. At $1000 each, some of my packs are definitely for sale. Neither of the top two bidders responded to my email. That too left me a bit skeptical.

I have only been scammed on eBay once, and that little episode cost me $400. So I was left with a feeling that, while the pack was legit, a bit of a bidding "game" was being played. With the sellers limited feedback, the red flag went up.

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me!!!!"

Instead, I was very happy to have recently purchased a 1910 trial pack of unopened Red Man tobacco for $60. I'll be adding pictures of that pack to my Red Man reference catalogue just as soon as a get a chance to work on it again.

Red Mans rock!!

mrredman



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