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#338532 - 02/13/04 06:52 PM Re: What about sheet-cut cards? [Re: grilloj39]
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Here's what I think. There appear to be enough collectors out there that accept the phenomenon of the graded, sheet-cut card. The problem, I believe, lies in trying to associate the value of a factory issued card with one that has been removed from a complete sheet after the fact. It would seem to me that the most equitable and reasonable solution would be for grading companies that choose to grade sheet cut cards (that do not ordinarily exist only in that state) to specify that they are "sheet cut" on their holders. That way, collectors can knowingly decide for themselves how much money they're willing to pay for each. In other words, I think it's important to distinguish between the two and make collectors aware of this difference -- let the market dictate the true price.


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I have dreams about that card....hmmm, vezina, hmmm, burger!






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#338533 - 02/13/04 07:14 PM Re: What about sheet-cut cards? [Re: jackstraw]
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i still love that joliet postcard!come on mw show us that picture.



Same picture of Aurel Joliat as on his 1936-37 O-Pee-Chee Series D card (both pictured below):






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#338534 - 02/13/04 08:53 PM Re: What about sheet-cut cards? [Re: aconte]
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Grilloj39,

I think 20k would be a ridiculous price. Even if that card we not sheet
cut, would there be that much of a difference to an 8.5? You could buy
a lot of nice vintage with the leftover $$$.

I'd like to see the scans that MW1 is refering to that can help spotting the
different versions.

aconte




Here are the scans. The first image represents one of the nicest factory issued Gretzky rookies I've been able to find in the last five years. The second image is a close-up of one of the areas of the card that possesses the after image I spoke of. Note that although this card has three relatively "smooth" edges, the top edge still has a rough cut.




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#338535 - 02/14/04 06:03 AM Re: What about sheet-cut cards? [Re: MW1]
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Very nice!!
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#338536 - 02/14/04 06:31 AM Re: What about sheet-cut cards? [Re: Captain_Pike]
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MW...thanks for the scans. Those are some of the best hockey cards on the planet! Again, the BGS 9.5 OPC Gretzky card is just too sharp for it to be a factory-cut card IMHO.
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#338537 - 02/14/04 07:01 AM Re: What about sheet-cut cards? [Re: grilloj39]
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since we have a hockey fan do you have a picture of the plante rookie sgc 92?
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#338538 - 02/15/04 05:36 AM Re: What about sheet-cut cards? [Re: MW1]
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Regarding the Gretzky BGS (BVG) 9.5. I spoke with Adam from Dave & Adams on the phone regarding this card. The story goes that the guy opened a box of cards at D&A's table. He left with the card and returned the next day asking for it to be graded using BGS rather than BVG criteria because he was so confident in the card. No one can be sure that the guy came back with the SAME Gretzky RC that he opened up the day before. I asked Adam if he would state his reputation on it and he said he couldnt.

John

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