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#338662 - 02/11/04 10:53 PM ..
MW1
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On another thread, buttermarc wrote the following:

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Failure to disclose is just as dishonest as a seller auctioning off a PRO-graded card that he or she knows is trimmed. There may be a bit of a differential between a collector who does not necessarily know the card is trimmed (more often the case with Topps than OPC issues....) as opposed to the dealers (there are at least two that come to mind...) who actually do the trimming and submitting.

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#338663 - 02/12/04 12:58 AM Re: Am I about to get banned again? [Re: MW1]
botn
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I have never felt names were important. It is the grading companies' job to reject cards that they know to be (altered) or cut of sheets after leaving the factory. I am assuming that in your question you are not referring to strip cards as well as other cards that were specifically issued on sheets with the expectation that collectors cut them off. Examples are Post, Kellogg’s, Briggs Meats, etc.
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#338664 - 02/12/04 01:15 AM Re: Am I about to get banned again? [Re: botn]
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I am assuming that in your question you are not referring to strip cards as well as other cards that were specifically issued on sheets with the expectation that collectors cut them off. Examples are Post, Kellogg’s, Briggs Meats, etc.


Correct.
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#338665 - 02/12/04 09:44 AM Re: Am I about to get banned again? [Re: MW1]
deadlyembrace
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MW1 --

You know the old saying about what happens when you play with fire ...

Through your experience, we've all learned that the moderator frowns on (... to be polite ...) the practice of naming names. To avoid the risk that a future temporary ban becomes permanent, I'd recommend against it.
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#338666 - 02/12/04 12:35 PM Re: Am I about to get banned again? [Re: deadlyembrace]
Basilone
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What about the jokers up north who trim up all those 80's OPC cards?
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#338667 - 02/12/04 12:57 PM .. [Re: Basilone]
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What about the jokers up north who trim up all those 80's OPC cards?

My sentiments exactly.
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#338668 - 02/12/04 01:07 PM Re: Am I about to get banned again? [Re: MW1]
jackstraw
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nothing, but i doubt any will surprise us the jokers up north. you might surprise me if you stay here in the u.s though!
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#338669 - 02/16/04 06:14 PM Re: Am I about to get banned again? [Re: MW1]
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Seems like there may be different opinions in the hobby as to whether sheet cut cards are considered trimmed. This would make it different than a person trimming a 1967 topps card and selling it without advising the buyer of the trimming. However, I think your motiviation in wanting to name the dealers is because you believe they are deceiving buyers - otherwise why would anyone care who they are.

Nonetheless, I think Sean made SGC's policy (which is very reasonable from SGC's perspective) about naming names pretty clear. I would strongly advise against it.

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