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#358649 - 03/03/04 04:42 PM Re: NEWEST POST FROM ACROSS THE STREET [Re: MW1]
aconte
Bid more or post more... tough one...


Registered: 02/22/02
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Oh THAT litmus test!

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#358650 - 03/03/04 04:48 PM Re: NEWEST POST FROM ACROSS THE STREET [Re: aconte]
MW1
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#358651 - 03/03/04 04:52 PM Re: NEWEST POST FROM ACROSS THE STREET [Re: aconte]
botn
I am gonna miss that car.


Registered: 06/18/03
Posts: 215
Loc: Santa Monica, CA

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Mike,

The bottom line is that we now know that PSA/CU cannot be relied upon for factual information. They have continually displayed behavior that completely disregards the public's best interest. How can any reasonable person give their management any credibility when they have not and will not effectively address the WIWAG situation?

Was it really their position that the investigation would be compromised if they had disclosed additional facts or were they just simply covering up a huge scandal? The punishment for the crime and the scope of the investigation rested solely on the extent to which the WIWAGed cards in collections and dealers inventory were presented back to PSA. Doesn't logic dictate that in order to do this properly CU should have provided cert numbers and/or the exact methods of distribution of these cards?

As for PSA's ability to grade, this is no news. I have almost 60 cards in my safe that are clearly trimmed. Why do I know this? 'Cause I sent them in. I also just had a submission graded by GAI in which 4 of the cards had resided in previously purchased PSA holders. Two were trimmed. Again, no surprise.

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#358652 - 03/03/04 05:09 PM Re: NEWEST POST FROM ACROSS THE STREET [Re: botn]
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#358653 - 03/03/04 05:35 PM Re: NEWEST POST FROM ACROSS THE STREET [Re: MW1]
botn
I am gonna miss that car.


Registered: 06/18/03
Posts: 215
Loc: Santa Monica, CA

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Mike,

First of all Dude cannot be relied upon for anything but perpetuating myths. His imagination runs rampant as he scrambles for any possible explanation other than facts. He has actually behaved himself pretty well since the Rose story broke. Can only conclude that he is busy preparing his PSA holder collection for sale.

The criminal investigation is over. The only pending case surrounding the WIWAG scandal I know of is that filed by Real Legends.

The proceeds from the sales of the various divisions will also have to be used to take care of a settlement with Real Legends. Hall needs to write as large a check as possible to keep this one quite. Hope that he is not too attached to his home.

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#358654 - 03/04/04 09:42 AM Re: NEWEST POST FROM ACROSS THE STREET [Re: botn]
carew4me
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Registered: 03/10/03
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PSA: BAD
SGC: GOOD

If only life was as simple.

You guys just love the labels! (SGC only of course)
Anyone who doesn't agree with
the 3 rabid dogs here with their clear cut agenda's are immediatly
relegated to the status of PSA zombie. I think you do harm to regular collector's who would like to see a lively discussion of pro's and con's of all.

"Across the street" as you say, is the place where that debate happens.

I love the SGC holder (except the size). I have many SGC cards and
I am happy as can be with them and continue to buy SGC cards at 50% SMR
as long as they are centered well which I feel is the major weakness (No qualifiers), besides resell value.

Having said that...

I CHALLENGE ALL COLLECTORS!

Please review the posts on PSA boards and ask yourself:
-Make sure you look beyond the few posts that are dominated by the koolaid drinkers, as these clowns are on any messge board-

1. Are there more collectors here or there?
2. Are most of the subjects discussed informative and can I learn something?
3. Do the vast majority of posters seem to have an agenda that will taint my pursuit hobby knowledge?
4. Are the debates that center around grading companies inclusive of
the 3 major grading companies, their strengths and weakness, and
the benefits and drawbacks that come with choosing any one company?
5. Are there posters who are seem to be so completely indoctrinated AGAINST
a particular grading company that you feel as though their opinion may to subjective to trust?

NOW COME BACK HERE AND ASK THESE SAME QUESTIONS.

You cant get an education if their only telling you half of the story.

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#358655 - 03/04/04 09:54 AM Re: NEWEST POST FROM ACROSS THE STREET [Re: carew4me]
srs1a
Old, dense-headed hammers are cool. Best nail pounders.


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#358656 - 03/04/04 11:54 AM Re: NEWEST POST FROM ACROSS THE STREET [Re: srs1a]
carew4me
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Scott,

That hurts! Tell me how I could have spiced it up to keep you awake.
Maybe you could give me a better method to make my point, after
all my only intention was to expose fellow collectors to the best source of
collecting information.

OH WAIT, YOU JUST HAVE!

Fellow collector's, please review the posts on the CU message boards,
I think you will find that your very own srsa1 posts on PSA boards
as frequently as here!

So, I recommend that we follow the lead of our buddy srsa1 and go where
the honest discussions are.

THANKS SCOTT!

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#358657 - 03/04/04 12:39 PM Re: NEWEST POST FROM ACROSS THE STREET [Re: carew4me]
srs1a
Old, dense-headed hammers are cool. Best nail pounders.


Registered: 08/15/02
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carew4me,

You are a genius! You have managed to crack my code -- I am srs1a on this board, I am srs1a on the CU board and I am srs1a on eBAY. I never thought that anyone could possibly figure this out, but you did.

I don't want to blow anyone's cover, but a few other folks use this same code -- have you figured out which ones they are yet? It's a little tricky, but I have confidence in you.

Now, if you do a little more research, you might discover that I actually have sets registered both places -- shocking, isn't it?

Now do you have any other words of wisdom to share or are you done?

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#358658 - 03/04/04 12:49 PM Re: NEWEST POST FROM ACROSS THE STREET [Re: srs1a]
carew4me
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I've always been pretty sharp and not easily fooled

In fact you ol dog, you may have hit on yet another great idea,
Collect both, I do that too!

Scott, kindred sprit, how do convince the newbies and the zombies that
there are pos and negs with both companies?

I hope now that you will join me in advocating objective advice to collectors!

Thanks again, see you on CU boards!

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