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#361629 - 03/05/04 01:04 PM This is not really cards but related.....
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Do any of you hav e any ideas what a signed Baseball with 23 Yankee Old Timers on it would be worth.... It has Maris, Dimaggio, Pepitone, Berra, Oliva, Chandler, Raschi, Schantz, Stengel, Baker and 13 more signatures.... Has a COA with it. Any help would be apreicated.
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#361630 - 03/07/04 06:17 PM Re: This is not really cards but related..... [Re: Bruceswar]
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Bruceswar,

If you provide a complete list of players and a description of both the baseball and the quality of the signatures (an image would be great), I will be happy to provide an estimation of value.

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#361631 - 03/07/04 10:42 PM Re: This is not really cards but related..... [Re: MW1]
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This ball is a game ball from one of the Yankee Old Timer Games. It has to at least be from 1998 or before because Dimaggio signed it.. As for the other signatures I can't tell you for sure who they are since I am not an expert on signatures... The COA only listed the ones that I posted... The Ball is a Bobby Brown ball that I was told was from the 90's....
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#361632 - 03/07/04 10:44 PM Re: This is not really cards but related..... [Re: Bruceswar]
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#361633 - 03/07/04 10:45 PM Re: This is not really cards but related..... [Re: Bruceswar]
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#361634 - 03/07/04 10:47 PM Re: This is not really cards but related..... [Re: Bruceswar]
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#361635 - 03/07/04 10:57 PM Re: This is not really cards but related..... [Re: Bruceswar]
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#361636 - 03/07/04 11:29 PM Re: This is not really cards but related..... [Re: Bruceswar]
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Quote:

The Ball is a Bobby Brown ball that I was told was from the 90's....



Well...Bobby Brown became American League President in 1984, but if the ball is from the 1990s, then a Maris signature would not be possible since he (Maris) died in 1985.

Also, a few of the other signatures look unusual including the DiMaggio....may I ask where you got the ball from?

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#361637 - 03/07/04 11:54 PM Re: This is not really cards but related..... [Re: MW1]
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Well I got the ball from a collector... He said he got the ball from a shop... The ball has a COA from Goldin Sports Marketing & Licensing .... which I was also told went out of business a few years back... As for the Maris signature... the man who told me the ball was from the 90's was not a autograph guy at all.... he mainly dealt in cards...
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#361638 - 03/07/04 11:59 PM Re: This is not really cards but related..... [Re: Bruceswar]
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Can you post an image of the COA? Is it specific to this baseball? Many COA's from Goldin Marketing are very generic in design and could be applied to a number of different baseballs. I'm not saying that's what happened here, I'm just offering a possibility.
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#361639 - 03/08/04 12:01 AM Re: This is not really cards but related..... [Re: Bruceswar]
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Here is an image of another Joe Dimaggio sig... Off the yankee website....


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#361640 - 03/08/04 12:04 AM Re: This is not really cards but related..... [Re: Bruceswar]
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getting a scan on the coa now.....
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#361641 - 03/08/04 12:10 AM Re: This is not really cards but related..... [Re: Bruceswar]
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#361642 - 03/08/04 12:19 AM Re: This is not really cards but related..... [Re: Bruceswar]
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bigger coa.....




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#361643 - 03/08/04 01:29 AM Re: This is not really cards but related..... [Re: Bruceswar]
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Bruceswar,

I'm sorry, but I just don't like some of the signatures on the ball including those of Joe DiMaggio, "Moose" Skowron and Vic Raschi. They're close, but certain letters just don't look right to me. There are other problems as well. For one, Casey Stengel died in 1975...almost a decade before Bobby Brown baseballs were made. And whenever I see a Roger Maris signature on a Bobby Brown baseball, I always assume it's a fake. Why? Because to the best of my knowledge, Roger Maris was in the hospital near the end of his life and the window of opportunity to get his signature on a Bobby Brown baseball was extremely limited (I only know of one dealer who had Roger sign a quantity of balls when he was sick and he didn't have him sign Bobby Brown baseballs). Also, I'm not sure why Tony Oliva would sign a Yankees Old Timers ball. The ball just doesn't look good to me, but please keep in mind that this is only my opinion. There may be others who judge your ball to be 100% authentic. In my estimation, a top-condition baseball with authentic signatures would probably bring about $500 or so.

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#361644 - 03/08/04 01:55 AM Re: This is not really cards but related..... [Re: MW1]
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Well I am going to have the ball COA'ed again .. to make sure it is authentic... I am sure that I can find a reputable company here in dallas that will do it... And if all those guys were real it would only bring $500? .. Yet on the Yankees website they want $699.00 for Dimaggio alone...?? Definately needs to be COA'ed again... I will let you know what happens when I get it COA'ed Again...
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#361645 - 03/08/04 02:09 AM Re: This is not really cards but related..... [Re: Bruceswar]
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Bruceswar,

$699 would definitely be a high-end retail price for Joe DiMaggio autographed baseballs (authentic ones can be found for less). Keep in mind that the price for autograph baseballs is not an additive function of its constituent signatures; rather, it is a function of supply and demand. For vintage baseballs and those containing vintage signatures, the demand for single-signed balls with notable Hall of Famers (both living and deceased) is generally greater than that for baseballs with a cornucopia of autographs. Exceptions to this rule would be for legendary or well-known teams such as the 1961 Yankees or 1955 Brooklyn Dodgers.

As paradoxical as it may seem, a baseball with ONLY Roger Maris' autograph on the sweet spot would be considerably more valuable than a baseball that included the autographs of Roger Maris and several of his 1960s N.Y. Yankee teammates.

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#361646 - 03/08/04 02:18 AM Re: This is not really cards but related..... [Re: MW1]
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Thx for all the information...
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