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#40784 - 12/23/02 03:05 AM Eagerly awaiting a 1980 Topps Baseball Vending box in mail
estang
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I purchased it for $96.50 including shipping from the great ebay seller "bigpuma". I'm looking forward to crackin' it open and sending in some cards to SGC for grading under their special.

I'd like to get an All-Star run of 1980 SGC cards along with major stars; much like what I'm trying to do with the 1977 set.

I bought a very nice 1980 NM to NM/MT Mint set from a guy off of ebay recently for only $50 with cards that are worth to send in for 88 to 96 grades. I'm curious on how the vending box will compare to the set. I may send duplicates in to compare and sell myself to buy more cards.

Upon further review, I've found that the 1980 Topps baseball is a very well designed set that is generally well-centered in comparison to 1970s cards. They have those great fascilime autos and all-star designated cards.

I also bought a 1979 NM to NM/MT set from the same guy I got the 1980 set from. I decided not to send cards to graded from this set because I don't really like the 1979 design and the centering is very bad.

I'll keep you posted.

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#40785 - 12/23/02 06:24 AM Re: Eagerly awaiting a 1980 Topps Baseball Vending box in mail [Re: estang]
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Great stuff. The anticipation can angonzing...defeinitely a "when is Santa coming to town" feeling. When I bought my '77 vending box, it took forever to ship. But it was well worth the wait. I actually 40 or so currently being graded. Let us know how it goes....

I agree with about 1979. I couldn't warm up to the design. Soon enough, you'll give into 1977 fever...
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#40786 - 12/24/02 04:20 AM Box was a real loser due to condition... [Re: vayank]
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I haven't checked in detail but I'm completely disappointed in the quality of the cards. I'd say that 1/5 are in EX+ or less condition due to dinged corners. I will only be submitting 2 cards for grading: Rickey Henderson & Nolan Ryan. Both are slightly off-center and I guess they'll get anywhere from an 84 to an 88 grade.

I contacted the seller, who has great feedback on ebay, to let him know that he packed the cards with care but that the quality was bad. He replied back stating that he has sold over 400 vending boxes and I'm the 2nd one to report dinged corners. I'm not looking for a refund, but I feel jipped.

The other major/minor star cards are not even NM. I'd say about 15 cards were mint and about 225 would grade an 88 or 92.

The set I purchased for $55 bucks was in way better quality and I have about 22 star cards from that I will send in.

Total bummer! Anyone else had similar experiences?

Erik
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#40787 - 12/30/02 05:55 AM Re: Box was a real loser due to condition... [Re: estang]
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Erik> That's been my experience with late 70s and early 80s vending. Even a well-cared-for box doesn't yield many truly mint cards. I think you'll find better success with rack boxes than with vending.

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#40788 - 12/30/02 04:35 PM Re: Box was a real loser due to condition...
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Bingo Beavis! I know we've talked at some length about this. Vending can be rough. I'd like to see some pompous "vintage" guys try and do a truly MINT 75 set or 77 set...not that easy, folks!

estang, you want scary? How 'bout cracking open a really sweet lookin' 77 wax box and pulling 5 mint commons!...one in duplicate! Boo-yah! Let's see...at 900 a pop that's uh, er, just under 200 bucks for that Jerry Morales!...
Never Again!!!

Mike,
Can't get that damned pitching machine to work! Argh! Thanks for the help...how's your back?
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#40789 - 12/31/02 01:22 AM Re: Box was a real loser due to condition... [Re: downgoesfrazier]
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77s -- no kidding, MINT stuff from the 70's is really tough. So is NM/MT from the 60's where wax/vending just doesn't exist...or else is hundreds/thousands of dollars for a pack...or shi%%y "christmas cello". I think that there is one constant in card collecting -- no one is interested in easy. We all simply pick our level of acceptable pain an get on with it. And talk about pain -- take a look at DE's '62 partial set -- now this guy likes pain!

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#40790 - 12/31/02 01:36 AM Re: Box was a real loser due to condition... [Re: srs1a]
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Scott,
I have seen the beast of which you speak.

Estang, here's another angle...If you you like the design of 1980 topps, pull out a few cards that you like that have poor cuts, centering, dings, chips, etc. and laminate them and use them as coasters I use tabless Red Man cards in this capacisty and they always spark interesting baseball/nostalgia-type conversations with company. You can also buy some finished glass and a wood table at a garage sale, paint the table any color you want and place the cards in a "scatter", lay the glass on top and VOILA! A gorgeous end table rich with collecting tradition...

OK, you can tell my wife has me watching "Trading Spaces" just a little too much...
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#40791 - 01/04/03 12:01 PM Re: Eagerly awaiting a 1980 Topps Baseball Vending box in mail [Re: estang]
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estang- That's the problem with late 70's/early 80's vending. When you get a good box, it's like a brick of gold. But unfortunately most are slightly better than what you described. Rack boxes tend to have better centered cards. Good Luck next time.
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#40792 - 01/22/03 03:42 PM Re: Box was a real loser due to condition... [Re: estang]
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Erik,

Unless the vending box was damaged before shipping, I don't see how a large quantity of its contents had dinged corners and were only Ex+. That would be very suspicious to me. Have you had any luck with a return or refund?

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#40793 - 03/28/03 06:07 PM Re: Box was a real loser due to condition... [Re: downgoesfrazier]
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I cant quite figure out yours and other forum members obsession with 1977 topps Baseball?????????????????????? Its an ugly set in my opinion and that Dale Murphy rookie is the top card. 1978 I could understand. Same goes for 1971 or 1975 but 1977??????????????????? Help me understand.
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#40794 - 03/29/03 01:42 PM Re: Box was a real loser due to condition... [Re: Dungeon]
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opinions are like poodoo holes sir... everybody's got one

personally i find the set attractive... but i dont collect it.

of the 70's i only find 1972 and 1979 somehwat unattractive, but that just my opinion
of the i find no unattractive sets in the 50 or 60s though
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#40795 - 03/29/03 02:20 PM Re: Box was a real loser due to condition... [Re: Lothar52]
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but 77? sheesh. I agree that 1972 and 1979 are buttt ugly!
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#40796 - 03/30/03 02:04 AM Re: Box was a real loser due to condition... [Re: Dungeon]
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70,71 (oooooo black borders!!!), 73,74,76,77,78 (all white boarders...all have same feel and to me are equally attractive.

1975....now there is a winner.. each card is its own set... WOW.... the color in that set is UNPARRALLED by any set EVER MADE

1972... butt ugly indeed... whoever designed that set should be shot on sight
1979.....why is it every time i see a 79 and that swooping T for Topps i think of KMART...and i get sick to my stomach at the CHEAPNESS...... I SEE BLUE LIGHTS!! I SEE BLUE LIGHTS!!!

52-whatever..too expensive
53-ditto
54-wow..classic..hope to build someday
55-56-ditto
57 to 69..... AWESOME....not a bad design in the house (1966 aint great though)....
80-awesome
81-poodoo... nice cheap hats... UGH!!
82-86... i love it.. 1986 has an AWESOME design.. its the black version of 1964... only there are NO Rookies in the set AT ALL!!! and its overproduced!!!
87- ive seen so many of them i get SICK every time i see them
88-89?? did topps even produce set these years?
90- nice color.. but still poodoo
91- Nice.. nice CHEAP looking 40th aniversary..way to go topps
92- not bad.. better then 91
93-not bad.. losing the 80s cherap look
94-2000.... NO IDEA.... i stopped collecting baseball completely.. too much poodoo
2001- topps heritage... UNBELIEVEABLE- i own a master set!!!
2002- topp heritage...nice... though i only bought the sosa and bonds
2003- topps heritage... i got 8 box case in my closet right now.. and will be opening that up this summer :).....a case for every year after too...it dont get better then todays stars on the best card designs ever of yesteryear

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#40797 - 03/30/03 06:46 AM Re: Box was a real loser due to condition... [Re: Lothar52]
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I loved the 1987 design. Its a shame they printed so much of it! I think the Ugliest set design EVER would have to be 1991 Fleer and that yellow border atrocity. It looks like someone peed all over the batch of cards after production. 1952 Topps has got to be the best looking. Talk about peaking early. Their finest set was their first set.
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