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#55371 - 01/28/03 04:59 PM Beckett and SGGC cards THEY SELL
Lothar52
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What is up with beckett..every time i go to there website its NO NEWS and ALL BUY THIS AND BUY THAT from US....at THIS GRADE..... who can trust em... and it seems as if they themself have turned into the HOME SHOPPING NETWORK with that BCCG crapola.

the meek shall inherit the earth.... maybe not but i think SGC will inherit the card grading industry if they stick to morals and providing the best service for there CUSTOMERS... IVE SWITCHED.... hope more do too

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#55372 - 01/28/03 05:02 PM Re: Beckett and SGGC cards THEY SELL [Re: Lothar52]
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CRAP..i meant to say BCCG not SCCG...hehe.. so used to puting S and C and G together... please forgive!

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#55373 - 01/28/03 10:55 PM Re: Beckett and SGGC cards THEY SELL [Re: Lothar52]
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Lothar,

It's good to have you! SGGC....that's actually kind of funny!

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#55374 - 01/29/03 01:40 AM Re: Beckett and SGGC cards THEY SELL [Re: Lothar52]
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Bid more or post more... tough one...


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I was recently reading a copy of the Vintage Beckett mag on my lunch at
the mall in the bookstore. Note reading not buying . Cheap aren't
I???!!! Anyhow, MW1 they were some nice 52 Bowman Large football cards
you guys were displaying. My mouth was drooling on the Sgc 96 Bednarik
card. What was the find anyhow?

Anyhow, back to the thread... Beckett loves to sell sell sell.

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#55375 - 01/29/03 01:48 AM Re: Beckett and SGGC cards THEY SELL [Re: aconte]
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aconte,

Thank you for the compliment on the '52 Bowmans. Here's the scoop on "The Wichita Find."

Link to article

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#55376 - 01/29/03 02:05 AM Re: Beckett and SGGC cards THEY SELL [Re: MW1]
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wONDER WHAT THE 'low" BUY PRICE WAS????????????
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#55377 - 01/29/03 02:07 AM Re: Beckett and BCCG cards THEY SELL [Re: MW1]
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dear lord man... now i know who you are BMW guy... wow...its good to chat with a an industry leader. Maybe SOMEDAY i can afford to buy a few cards from you LOL. Save one of those 52 bowman large sets for me!! (i wish)

you just going to send all of them to SGC for grading and keep a set for yourself and sell the rest??

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#55378 - 01/29/03 02:12 AM Re: Beckett and SGGC cards THEY SELL [Re: MW1]
aconte
Bid more or post more... tough one...


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MW1,

Thanks for the link. What a find!

I'll have to read the 52 Bowman Large & Small Football article when I get
a chance. I haven't read the updated hobby news on your site in some time.
I'm usually looking for red man cards in case you get any I need.

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#55379 - 01/29/03 02:13 AM Re: Beckett and BCCG cards THEY SELL [Re: Lothar52]
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Lothar,

Some of the low populations cards have already been sent to SGC. The rest of the NM or better examples we'll probably submit to SGC over the next year or so. Many of the sets in the Vg-Ex to EM range have already been sold to a variety of different hobby sources including dealers, collectors and even one auction house.

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#55380 - 01/29/03 02:16 AM Re: Beckett and SGGC cards THEY SELL [Re: aconte]
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aconte,

Thanks for the reminder on the Red Mans (or is it Red Men?). As soon as I submit another group, I'll email a list to you.

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#55381 - 01/29/03 02:22 AM Re: Beckett and SGGC cards THEY SELL [Re: MW1]
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Bid more or post more... tough one...


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MW1,

Thanks. Either one red man or red men work if you get nice ones I need!

If you get an extra Chuck Bednarik in nm grade maybe nm/mt keep me in
mind. I can't afford a mint one. Probably stretching it on a nm/mt one.
Them beautiful red man's get most of the extra coin.

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#55382 - 01/29/03 07:00 AM Re: Beckett and SGGC cards THEY SELL [Re: aconte]
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Great story Mike. Even better cards. It's stories like this that give this hobby life. Congrats to you and relate more "find" stories as they happen.
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#55383 - 01/29/03 07:22 AM Re: Beckett and SGGC cards THEY SELL [Re: Lothar52]
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what do u guys think of my 56 banks? SGC what???? got it for 150

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#55384 - 01/29/03 07:32 AM Re: Beckett and SGGC cards THEY SELL [Re: Lothar52]
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here it is


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#55385 - 01/29/03 07:35 AM Re: Beckett and SGGC cards THEY SELL [Re: Lothar52]
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BMW...does it look legit?? it looks even better in person.. i love the centering!!! its going to get SGC graded next week..but i wanted your guys opinions on it!!!

Lothar52

im hoping for a 5

no creases, no snow...back clean.. just the bit of corner wear

ITS LOOKS GREAT
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#55386 - 01/29/03 08:00 AM Re: Beckett and SGGC cards THEY SELL [Re: Lothar52]
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Lothar,

I hate to tell you, but your Banks is an Aaron!

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#55387 - 01/29/03 08:49 AM Re: Beckett and SGGC cards THEY SELL [Re: srs1a]
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i meant aaron..cut me a break.. you know i get confused easily!!!
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#55388 - 01/29/03 10:45 AM Re: Beckett and SGGC cards THEY SELL [Re: Lothar52]
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Lothar --

Outstanding centering! I would say a 5 or 6.

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#55389 - 01/29/03 12:03 PM Re: Beckett and SGGC cards THEY SELL [Re: MW1]
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im all about the centering.. i could care less about the corners to tell u the truth... hence i have a large collection of mid to low grade cards.. BUT I LOVE THEM!

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#55390 - 01/29/03 12:19 PM Re: Beckett and SGGC cards THEY SELL [Re: Lothar52]
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Nice card!

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#55391 - 01/29/03 12:27 PM Re: Beckett and SGGC cards THEY SELL [Re: Lothar52]
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oh the humanity!!!.... i was just looking at my 55 banks i just got today in the mail bought raw...its about as centered as the 56 aaron pic i got up and when going over the surface i noticed a fingernail impression... it was definitely a 6 before as the corners are better then the 56 aarons with 2 of the 4 being almost perfect. unbelieveable.. prolly get a 4 now.

doh!

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#55392 - 01/29/03 12:50 PM Re: Beckett and SGGC cards THEY SELL [Re: Lothar52]
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well..here is my 55 banks im going to have SGC graded... LET ME KNOW IF POSTING PICS OF CARDS TO BE GRADED BY SGC IS NOT ACCEPTED

give me your opinion guys...one hell of a 4 no???

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#55393 - 01/29/03 12:57 PM Re: Beckett and SGGC cards THEY SELL [Re: Lothar52]
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here it is....again.... why wont this go??

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#55394 - 01/29/03 01:14 PM 1955 Banks [Re: Lothar52]
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Loth,

Nice card. How bad are the impressions because otherwise, it looks more like a 6 or 7.

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#55395 - 01/29/03 01:27 PM Re: 1955 Banks [Re: MW1]
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its a fingernail impression..like someone had the card down on the table nad just put there fingernail downon the card very lightly and pressed enough to make a impression. Its visible when u turn the card into the light but otherwise you can see it and hence, it doent distract from the card. The lower left corner is perfect.. the top 2 corners have some slight touch and a wee bit on the bottom right. I bought this off ebay for 75 bucks reserve price. Some lady was selling it... im thinking its her damn fingerprint when she was putting the card in the holder... DAMN SHAME

for me.. 75 bucks for 4 WITH PERFECT CENTERING... its all i could ask for... i saw a 56 banks DP with centering raw go for 100 bucks the other day so this was still A DEAL

loth

-----never the less its a bit irritating cause i thought this bad boy was a SURE-FIRE 6 without that impression

there is just ONE fingernail dent on the card
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#55396 - 01/29/03 02:57 PM Re: 1955 Banks [Re: Lothar52]
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the seller of the card had to say this about the fingernail :

"That was the way it was found in my friends attic. Hope you enjoy, Susan "

i guess its a recent find??? it certainly would grade a 6...possibly a 7 if that fingernail impression was not there.

i believe her story of just finding these.... her past auctions had NOTHING to do with cards at all

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#55397 - 01/30/03 11:56 AM Re: 1955 Banks [Re: MW1]
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so what do u think MW???

does a fingernail mark degrade it buy 2 or 3??

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#55398 - 01/30/03 12:08 PM Re: 1955 Banks [Re: Lothar52]
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Loth,

It depends how deep it is and how much it detracts from the card's overall appearance. In some cases, a surface defect may lower the technical grade of a card by several grades, in other situations, it may only lower it half a grade.

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#55399 - 01/30/03 02:49 PM Re: 1955 Banks [Re: Lothar52]
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only visible when the light sheens on it in direct light.. you dont see it when your just lookin at it.... who knows..im hioping for a 5
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#55400 - 01/30/03 02:57 PM Re: 1955 Banks [Re: MW1]
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75 for a centered 5 with what appears to be 7 corners is a great deal i think
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