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#57157 - 02/01/03 04:03 PM WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT????
Lothar52
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I just bought a BGS 8.5 pro set emmit smith rc (yeah so i like some of the overproduced early 90s cards lol)..... this guy is selling a 8.5 for 7 bucks but a BGS 9.0 he will bid up to 100bucks for...he is trying to "corner" the market on this card in BGS 9.0... he has 96 of 134 or something. He outbid me several times on a few 9s from bgs... so i did the right thing and got a freakin SGC 96 for 20 bucks he spent 70 on a bgs 9 2 days ago)!!!!!!! This was his reply to me telling him i got the SGC 96 :

I HAVE 95 NINES. I HAVE THE MARKET PRETTY MUCH
CORNERED.BE CAREFUL WITH SGC THEY HAVE A LAW SUITE
COMING UP IN MAY WHICH MIGHT KNOW THE S#$% OUT OF
THEM. PEOPLE RESPECT BGS A LOT MORE. I AM NOT SAYING
THAT TO GET YOU TO BUY THEM. I GOING TO KEEP GOING ON
THEM. GOING TO WIN ANOTHER IN FEW DAYS FROM NOW.ANYWAY

Whats up with the law suit comment????

Lothar52 Ryan

Mark, your on top of the SGC game..what is he talking about??
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#57158 - 02/01/03 04:50 PM Nothing. Just ignore him. [Re: Lothar52]
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Lothar,

Just a wild guess on my part, but if he can't spell lawsuit, he probably doesn't know much about one either.

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#57159 - 02/01/03 06:21 PM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: Lothar52]
Lothar52
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as we say in ohio when we get excited...

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAW!!!!!!!!!!!!


lothar

ps- ive decided to keep my psa 6 mays/banks cards that i got at the prices of 7s

here is how i decided this...

the diff between a 6 and a 7 mays is about 125 bucks. SInce WIWAG was a big time vintage dealer (or least we thought) im absolutley SURE that they have a psa 7 mays laying around...and that mays more then likely is OFF-CENTER. A psa 7 offcenter Mays is wroth CRAPto me.. in fact id be so disgusted at its site id have to sell it..and it would fetch the price of the dag on 6 cause its not centered!!!! I WANT A CENTERED 56 SET SOMEDAY... REGARDLESS OF GRADE... so i will keep my centered 6 in a 7 holder mays

The psa 7 Banks i have looks like a 7...all acdept for a mark of surface wear. its centering is WONDERFUL.. WIWAG definitley knew what they were doing when they b ought ungraded raw cards... who cares about the card..people will go bonkers and love the cards for there centering and we buythem at 4-5 prcies!!!! I literally cant part with these cards because they have the one quality i MUST have in a vintage card... CENTERING. CENTERING MEANS EVERYTHING!!!!!!! i have a SGC 4 58 koufac with 4 rounded soft corners and ill enver sell it.. why?? ITS GOT 50/50 centering T/B L/R and that is RARE!!!!!!! GOOD LORD I LOVE CENTERING!!!!!!!!!!

NOw then.. your saying.. what if they say they will look at the card, degrade it and have WIWAG pay u the difference... that would be great... is that what is going to happen?? NO... the rules are.. they give you a REPLACEMENT..and u dont get to PICK the replacement... so its hogwash...and im not going to get no uncentered 56s..cause to me they aint worth poodooo....well H E DOUBLE HOCKEY SITCKS... take a look at these cards and you tell me that centering doesnt make these cards as good as psa 8 or 9 with rot gut centering!!!

if these dont make ya stand up and beg for buttermilk nothing will... GOOD NITE
(pss- if you dont get pumped up talkingabout cards like i do then maybe you better start!) YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAW!!!!!!!


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#57160 - 02/01/03 06:21 PM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: Lothar52]
Lothar52
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once again.. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAW!!!

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#57161 - 02/01/03 06:24 PM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: Lothar52]
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and again.. yeeeeeeeeeHAW!

psss- people..lets start showing our cards....

and by the way... someday im going to get these bad boys switched to SGC holders!!! Its just unfortunate that there are not enough of these cards on ebay... do a search for SGC andyou get 1..maybe 2 cards...do a search on psa vintage and you get 2000 mantles or something..wild

loth
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#57162 - 02/01/03 06:24 PM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: Lothar52]
Lothar52
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why didnt it post?? try again...

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#57163 - 02/01/03 06:27 PM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: Lothar52]
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i think after i do a centered 56 set...if i do a 57 nm centered/graded set i got 2 of the best centered NM cards on the market!!!

Loth

id post my 57 mays 7 but you guys would prolly getting tired of me posting my cards all the time.. i love showing off cards.. why we dont hvae a new FORUM FOR SHOWING OUR CARDS OFF IT BEYOND ME!!

Lothar52

MW.. start a thread and show us some cards!!! yeeehaw!!!!

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#57164 - 02/01/03 06:30 PM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: Lothar52]
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if the FBI and psa DO NOT AGREE TO HAVE THE CARDS REGRADED AND SHIPPED BACK TO ME BUT REPLACED... how many of you think i should just send them in to SGC for reslabbing???

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#57165 - 02/02/03 01:03 AM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: Lothar52]
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100 bucks for bgs 9 PROSET!!!!!! I love Emmitt...he is second only to Tony Dorsett on my list of favorites (and I only have Tony first because he is the first athlete I considered a hero when I was a kid) but 100 bucks!!! come on!!! You can still get unopenned boxes of ProSet series 2 cards for under 10 bucks, and you get about 3 per box. I bought about 5 boxes a few years back at 5 bucks a box, got like 15 Emmitts, and at least half would be 9s if I sent them in..if not better. For $100 you can pick up a dozen boxes and submit the best dozen Smiths you pull !
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#57166 - 02/02/03 01:48 AM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: vic6string]
aconte
Bid more or post more... tough one...


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Maybe the guy should try to corner the market on intelligent purchases!

Lothar, Nice Cards. They look good to me.

Let me try this. How's this?

aconte



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#57167 - 02/02/03 01:53 AM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: Lothar52]
aconte
Bid more or post more... tough one...


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How about this card?

Does this look familiar to anyone? I know most of you know the card, but
how about THIS card?

aconte



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#57168 - 02/02/03 02:08 AM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: Lothar52]
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Great looking cards, guys. Lothar, I'm a 1964 Topps collector. How about showing us a larger picture of that '64 Mays shown under your ID?
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#57169 - 02/02/03 02:16 AM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: chuckster]
stanthemanfan
If I just sell the car, I can up my bid...


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Check out this card - I'll post a '64 Maris next.

Thanks

STMF



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#57170 - 02/02/03 02:20 AM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: chuckster]
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I am gonna miss that car.


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Guys,
Just to alert you...I am currently stock-piling every 1985 topps card #262 Greg Booker in MINT condition...Oh yah, baby, gotta have every one of them beauties for myself...aconte--stay away those are MINE, MINE, MINE!!! Regardless of the holder no Booker is safe with 'ol 77's on the prowl...
Michael, I know you've got some high-end stuff so keep on the lookout for me...
I NEED YOUR '85 TOPPS GREG BOOKERS!!! If you sell to anyone else I will file a law soote against you...



...what an idiot
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#57171 - 02/02/03 02:30 AM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: downgoesfrazier]
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77's,
As long as you stay away from my '85 Booker 9.5's we won't have any trouble. Perhaps together we can drive prices through the ceiling!


Great stuff!


"law soote" - I love it! (That's what an attorney wears to work - right?)

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#57172 - 02/02/03 02:37 AM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: stanthemanfan]
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STMF,
Sharp '58 Slaughter!! Looking forward to seeing the '64 Maris.

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#57173 - 02/02/03 02:55 AM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: chuckster]
stanthemanfan
If I just sell the car, I can up my bid...


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Chuckster

Here's a pic of the Maris. Take it easy

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#57174 - 02/02/03 03:20 AM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: stanthemanfan]
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Great card STMF!
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#57175 - 02/02/03 05:26 AM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: stanthemanfan]
aconte
Bid more or post more... tough one...


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Nice card STMF.

77's,

Good luck in your chase! You're too funny.

aconte
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#57176 - 02/02/03 06:01 AM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: chuckster]
Lothar52
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yo..about the 64s... ill email u a pic..the one i got is a 80...i do own a psa 8 mantle however... YOU WANT TO SEE IT..its OUTSTANDING

Lothar52
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#57177 - 02/02/03 06:51 AM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: downgoesfrazier]
stanthemanfan
If I just sell the car, I can up my bid...


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77's

Based on your new trailer - it sounds like you may be interested in viewing this card.

My collection is small potatoes to a lot of other message board posters, but I have enjoyed today's thread and the opportunity to share some of my cards with everyone - enjoy.

STMF

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#57178 - 02/02/03 06:53 AM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: stanthemanfan]
stanthemanfan
If I just sell the car, I can up my bid...


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I pushed the wrong button - here's the card pic. Enjoy

STMF



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#57179 - 02/02/03 06:53 AM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: aconte]
srs1a
Old, dense-headed hammers are cool. Best nail pounders.


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Apparently aconte is checking is people read his posts!

I believe that this very fine '64 Topps Giant of Clemente is significant for 2 reasons...(1) it was aconte's first SGC graded card and (2) an image of it adorns the SGC traveling booth.

Did I pass?

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#57180 - 02/02/03 07:03 AM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: srs1a]
stanthemanfan
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Everyone,

This is the most I have ever posted on the board in one day - take a look at this card - just back from SGC - part of a PSA cross-over. I think a serious undergrade - anyone with a better understanding of '62's willing to chime in with their opinion. I thought a solid 88 - granted, the lines may get blurried with the half-grade system - but this seems like a pretty solid card. Upper right is the only corner that shows a touch - I've owned much worse SGC 88's. Take a look - if nothing else - its another card to view.

Take it easy.

STMF

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#57181 - 02/02/03 07:04 AM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: stanthemanfan]
stanthemanfan
If I just sell the car, I can up my bid...


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Not sure what happened - where's my "Message Board for Dummy's" manual - see attached.


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#57182 - 02/02/03 08:00 AM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: stanthemanfan]
srs1a
Old, dense-headed hammers are cool. Best nail pounders.


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STMF,

I agree -- awfully sharp card.

What holder/grade was it originally in? I just got 3 more x-overs back and wasn't exactly excited with the grades. 2/3 of them were "straight x-overs" and the fourth went from an SBC-88 to an SGC-84 ('63 Aaron, I thought it would be a lock for an 86 and might even cross over straight)

I had previously had very good results with BGS (not BVG) x-overs for 68T. I had one BGS-7.5 go to an SGC-92 and a BGS-8.0 also go to a 92 in an earlier order. In my recent order, a BGS-7.5 '68T Clemente came back as an 86. It is, without a doubt, the nicest 86 in my '68 set (I checked every one at 10X) and just as nice as a good number of my 88's. Another BGS-8.0 went straight to an SGC-88 holder (76T #1, Aaron AT RBI). Oh well.

I think that they must be getting tired and cranky from cracking plastic in Parsippany. I certainly hope no one has been injured by the flying debris!

Scott




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#57183 - 02/02/03 08:53 AM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: srs1a]
aconte
Bid more or post more... tough one...


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srs1a,

You pass with an A+ Scott. The card is pretty nice. My wife wouldn't mind
if I turned all my cards to cash but that one. She thinks it's cool.

STMF,

From the scan it looks like you got ripped. I don't know this set really well
but those corners and edges look pretty fine to me. Maybe the grader
of death that the Psa forum members talks about is pulling double duty
in the East Coast too. Regardless, looks sweet. I hope you can get an
explanation. Good luck!

aconte
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#57184 - 02/02/03 06:13 PM 57 mantle centering [Re: aconte]
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What do you guys think of my 57 mantle??? that got some sweet centering or what????

Lothar52

the only other mantles you see with that centering on PRO 10s with curiously close white boards..... unbelieveable...there are 2 timmred up on ebay right now!

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#57185 - 02/05/03 07:01 AM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: Lothar52]
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Lothar52- Let this guy "corner" the BGS Emmitt market. You got the better deal with your SGC card. (Matter of fact you probably could have picked the card up cheaper). ProSet is a great looking card but vastly overproduced. I'm almost tempted to break down the few cases I have left and get them graded. At $100 per card, you can buy a case with the proceeds from 1 card sale. At 2-3 Emmitts per box, that's 50-75 Emmitt cards per 24 box case. If half grade BGS 9 (about 30-35 cards), you are looking at $3,000-$3,500 profit per case. Sounds almost too easy to me. I guess I'll be opening some packs this weekend.
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#57186 - 02/05/03 02:18 PM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: Fabfrank]
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"GOING TO WIN ANOTHER IN FEW DAYS FROM NOW.ANYWAY"

You should bid this joker up on every single one in the future. Whats the most he's paid? Bid a nickle below that on all future auctions of the card.

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#57187 - 02/05/03 02:39 PM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: theBobs]
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sweet..look for BGS 9 90 pro set emmit smith's on ebay and bid this guy up LOL... his name is lie bummalfm or something

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#57188 - 02/05/03 02:42 PM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: theBobs]
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2705842240&category=28099

20 bucks right now fora BGS 9.0.... watch forthe guy..he will buy it at 60 if need be... lol

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#57189 - 02/07/03 08:35 AM Re: WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKING ABOUT???? [Re: Lothar52]
Lothar52
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check it out.. he won another 90 pro set smith bgs 9.0 LOL

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#57190 - 02/08/03 02:47 AM Like Hunt cornering the silver market [Re: Lothar52]
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was his name Lamar Hunt? Anyway, this guy is going to corner the market in one of the most over-produced sets of all time. Reminds of that commercial with Dan Akroyd that buys all of those pez dispensers and their lined up behind his desk.

I wish I had a bunch of those cards in mint shape, because I send them to beckett and watch this guy make me a lot of money.

Do you think he knows the production of this card?

Enjoy your collection!

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