#86191 - 04/01/03 08:20 PM
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Ive seen a few laughable grading services out there that made my skin crawl. Just curious to know which grading service that you actually (not heard about) sent a card or cards in is the WORST available grading service in your opinion.
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#86192 - 04/01/03 09:19 PM
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Never submitted to, but "AAA" the "grading service" owned by LibertyForAll on Ebay is by far the "dung-beetle" of the hobby grading services. That's the company that cuts pictures of Ruth, Gehrig, Wagner, Cobb, Speaker, Joe Jax, etc out of magazines, and sells Xeroxes of the cut-out in a 25 cent 4 plastic rivet lucite with a 1 cent label attached with a grade. I think that they just grade their own "cards".
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#86193 - 04/02/03 06:10 AM
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FGA out of harrisburg pennsylvania and owned/operated by a forum member. the only grading company to ever be banned from ebay.
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#86194 - 04/02/03 06:28 AM
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good call skinny -- i think that they are now gone, correct? Or maybe, as you said, just gone from eBAY. In that dealers defense, I will say that I got some of the absolute freshest raw '68s from him in the past...all checked at at least 88 with about 30% landing in 96 holders. I wish he had more.
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#86196 - 04/02/03 09:11 AM
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Old, dense-headed hammers are cool. Best nail pounders.
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aconte,
While I have no solid evidence, I believe at least part of the statement to be true. I used to buy a good bit of material from this dealer (before I even knew of the message boards, much less the dealers identity on them) and believed him to be one of the best on eBAY (I never had a bad deal with them and the stuff arrived like a rocket ship). In the "about me" tab, they talked about only dealing in quality graded product (PSA and SGC were named). Then all of the sudden, a ton of FGA stuff appeared in their auctions and the "about me" tab changed. I also noticed a suspicious similarity in the 2 mailing addresses. So, at the very least, something appeared funny -- whether it actually was, or not...I cannot say with 100% certainty. I have wondered if the "ZAG" grading service isn't somehow associated with this situation.
I do not know about FGA being banned from eBAY, but they certainly are not there anymore. I checked and the website is also gone.
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#86201 - 04/03/03 09:46 PM
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I once sent some cards to TFA (The Final Authority). They were a little generous with the grades, but not terrible. Thank goodness I never submitted cards to some of the other companies mentioned here. I'll take other peoples' word for it instead of getting burned first hand! I think my vote for worst would go to ANY company that uses a screw down holder! If anyone with a Phillip's head screwdriver can break into your slab without effort - you've got problems!
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#86203 - 04/05/03 08:44 AM
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Don't worry, I didn't sentence any great cards to a prison of an off brand slab. Actually, it was either 1999 or 2000 when TFA was brand new and they were charging $5.00 a card. I was fairly new to grading, and I gave them a try. That was the first and last time I ever submitted to a company other than the "big three". I learned my lesson. 
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#86205 - 04/09/03 09:52 AM
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If ebay banned FGA, then they ought to do the same for PRO and AAA. 
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#86206 - 04/09/03 11:38 AM
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AMEN BROTHER! Dump em all.....they are the scourge of the hobby.
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#86207 - 04/11/03 06:16 PM
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While Beckett is clearly not the worst grading service, I am always cautious about buying vintage cards in Beckett holders as I have had SGC send two Becketts back to me with the comment "evidence of trimming'. But I have also had some BGS 8 cards cross to SGC 88 including my 1971 Clemente card.
Joe
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#86208 - 04/11/03 08:04 PM
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I only use PSA and sometimes SGC. I wish they would switch to the 10 point system though.
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#86209 - 04/13/03 09:04 AM
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I would stay clear of BGS. No guarantee. Pretty damning.
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#86210 - 04/13/03 03:33 PM
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Im starting to hear that more and more. Ill stick with PSA and SGC from now on.
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