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#9039 - 10/18/02 04:56 PM Re: GA has PSA Heads Spooked [Re: Fabfrank]
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There seems to be much more GAI stuff around all of the sudden. Some are getting alright money on ebay. I like the light holder and label on the top for set collectors. The black border (like SGC) makes the card jump out at you.
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#9040 - 10/21/02 04:32 PM Re: GA has PSA Heads Spooked
downgoesfrazier
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BigRed, Welcome! GAI is solid. They're struggling, but the product is strong. How long they can stick around...who knows. If they were able to pry Charlie away from PSA...now that would spook the masses...the holder is the second best looking in the hobby
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#9041 - 10/26/02 10:07 AM Re: GA has PSA Heads Spooked [Re: vayank]
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I have met the CEO on down at Collectors Universe. They are anything but spooked. They consider themselves the dominant player in grading. They are shooting for the "sight unseen" market. They have streamlined the grading process and do it more profitably then anyone. That gives them staying power.

That is not to mention the GA guys were crooks with tons of back door deals and massive misgrades that still circulate. They would never had been around had the current CEO Roger Johnson been in charge...

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#9042 - 10/26/02 10:17 AM Re: GA has PSA Heads Spooked
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I am pleased the outgoing CEO is bullish. I was referring to a number of posts I had seen at the other message board contemperaneous to the original post in the thread.
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#9043 - 10/26/02 04:55 PM Re: GA has PSA Heads Spooked
downgoesfrazier
I am gonna miss that car.


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Roger! Good to have you aboard the SGC train! Don't kid yourself, you are spooked. Now register.

Edited by 77s (11/01/02 05:58 AM)
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#9044 - 11/01/02 06:03 AM Re: GA has PSA Heads Spooked
downgoesfrazier
I am gonna miss that car.


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By the way, Roger, what the heck does "streamlined the grading process" mean, anyway? Giving 10's to Dslsports? Elaborate, please.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot...register.
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#9045 - 11/05/02 06:33 AM Re: GA has PSA Heads Spooked [Re: downgoesfrazier]
srs1a
Old, dense-headed hammers are cool. Best nail pounders.


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I did a quick look at eBAY auctions to estimate what market share each of the major grading companies have in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's. I estimate market share by the percentage of cards for auction by each grading company (far from exact, I'm sure...but sort of interesting, anyway).

(1) the combination of PSA, SGC, BGS/BVG and GAI have >94% of the market in the 50's, 60's and 70's!...this drops to 80% in the 80's and about 40% in the 90's -- so, the offbrands have no pressence in the vintage market -- no suprise here.

(2) PSA dominates the vintage market -- 88% in the 50's, 79% in the 60's and 75% in the 70's. SGC, BGS/BVG, and GAI basically split up the rest in the 50's (2.6%, 2.6%, and 2.2%, respectively) and also in the 60's (5.6%, 4.0%, and 5.1%). SGC's best decade is the 70's (I'd wager that their best year is 77 based on what I see here!) where they've got 12.9% to 5.7 for BVG/BGS to 1% for GAI.

(3) BGS picks up steam in the 80's and 90's...while SGC drops a bit and GAI disappears.

Based on what I see here...I don't see a reason for PSA to be spooked by GAI.

Scott

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#9046 - 11/05/02 06:57 AM Re: GA has PSA Heads Spooked [Re: srs1a]
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Eyeopening.

Good job!!


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#9047 - 11/05/02 07:13 AM Re: GA has PSA Heads Spooked [Re: deadlyembrace]
vayank
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S >

Thanks for the leg work. It must those '77 loonies pushing those 1970's #'s for SGC!!! But I thought you were a SGC guy??? LOL
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#9048 - 11/06/02 12:49 AM Re: GA has PSA Heads Spooked [Re: vayank]
srs1a
Old, dense-headed hammers are cool. Best nail pounders.


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yank,

I'm a card guy -- and love a sweet card no matter what holder it's in! I was kind of suprised by PSA's apparent dominance...I thought that both SGC and BGS would have taken bigger chunks out of them...and was also suprised that GAI had done as well as they have in the (early) vintage market.

Of course, this analysis ignores bozo's like me who have never sold a card in their life and might be better described as a hoarder rather than a collector!

Scott

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